Never-before-seen bottle stopper

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Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by djewesbury » 20:58 Tue 22 Jul 2014

Has anyone ever experienced this peculiar little fellow?
I bought a bottle of Riesling from a shop in Berlin today, and under the foil was a strange metal cap, a screwcap with no thread:
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And beneath this, a most strange thing, a glass stopper with a rubber seal:
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Anybody ever seen this before? André? The wine is from Mosel.
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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by AW77 » 21:10 Tue 22 Jul 2014

Yes, I've had these. I think they're called Vinolok:
http://vinolok.cz/
They were more fashionable some years ago and now I rarely seem them anymore.
There's an Spiegel article on this form of closure:
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mens ... 45225.html
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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by djewesbury » 21:21 Tue 22 Jul 2014

Right.

Well that killed that thread! :lol:
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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by AW77 » 21:29 Tue 22 Jul 2014

Well people here could still discuss alternative closure methods. Personally, I woulnd't mind such closures provided that they don't affect the wine negatively in the long run. Every corked bottle is a bottle too much.
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Post by DRT » 21:33 Tue 22 Jul 2014

I like corks.
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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by LGTrotter » 21:48 Tue 22 Jul 2014

AW77 wrote:Well people here could still discuss alternative closure methods. Personally, I woulnd't mind such closures provided that they don't affect the wine negatively in the long run. Every corked bottle is a bottle too much.
Exactly! But what if they do affect the wine. What if all these hermetically sealed thingys produce wines with all the personality of the windows paperclip? It is one of the reasons that I distrust new world wines, they all taste clean and well made. Where is the fag ash and offal that goes into good French wine? Down with uniformity. Hurray for cranky old things that work sporadically.

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Post by DRT » 21:50 Tue 22 Jul 2014

LGTrotter wrote:Hurray for cranky old things that work sporadically.
Were you looking in the mirror when you typed that?
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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by LGTrotter » 21:53 Tue 22 Jul 2014

DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:Hurray for cranky old things that work sporadically.
Were you looking in the mirror when you typed that?
An angle mirror if you must know.

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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by AW77 » 22:02 Tue 22 Jul 2014

LGTrotter wrote: Hurray for cranky old things that work sporadically.
I will remind you of this quote the next time you complain about a corked bottle. :)
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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by LGTrotter » 22:05 Tue 22 Jul 2014

AW77 wrote:
LGTrotter wrote: Hurray for cranky old things that work sporadically.
I will remind you of this quote the next time you complain about a corked bottle. :)
This may be another explanation of my defence of corks; I rarely notice corked wines.

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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by djewesbury » 22:06 Tue 22 Jul 2014

Thank you both for reviving this thread, which André very nearly killed stone dead with his efficient, unquestionably accurate and comprehensive answer.
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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by LGTrotter » 22:13 Tue 22 Jul 2014

I have seen one of these glass stoppers on something, I think though that it was the plastic gromit which provided the seal rather than glass to glass contact. Glass to glass tends to stick, as owners of old decanters can testify.

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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by friendlycheese » 11:20 Fri 19 Sep 2014

I love the glass stoppers which are quite common in Austrian wines. My wife collects them as they do come in different colours! They also allow for re-corking (re-glassing?) in a very efficient manner.

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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by LGTrotter » 23:00 Fri 19 Sep 2014

friendlycheese wrote:I love the glass stoppers which are quite common in Austrian wines. My wife collects them as they do come in different colours! They also allow for re-corking (re-glassing?) in a very efficient manner.
And I am sure you do your bit for her hobby by drinking the wine. All good relationships are based on mutuality. I like your nom de plume by the way, the port forum has had trouble with argumentative Gouda and surly Stilton so friendly cheese is most welcome, as are you; welcome to the port forum.

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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by jdaw1 » 13:50 Thu 03 Dec 2015

Windows Secrets, in an article entitled [url=http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/future-computing-the-internet-of-things/]Future computing: The Internet of Things[/url] and dated 2 Dec 2015, wrote:Other uses of IoT include monitoring your wine collection. Sensors embedded in corks report temperature, acidity, bottle location, and other properties.

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Re: Never-before-seen bottle stopper

Post by flash_uk » 19:38 Thu 03 Dec 2015

jdaw1 wrote:
Windows Secrets, in an article entitled [url=http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/future-computing-the-internet-of-things/]Future computing: The Internet of Things[/url] and dated 2 Dec 2015, wrote:Other uses of IoT include monitoring your wine collection. Sensors embedded in corks report temperature, acidity, bottle location, and other properties.
I use these sensors from Sensorist to monitor temperatures.

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