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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by djewesbury » 20:25 Sun 27 Jul 2014

LGTrotter wrote:
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djewesbury wrote:The 1978s are rather lovely!
'The year of the miracle' as Harry Waugh said. The main miracle being that they managed to sell them. But seriously they haven't turned out too bad, from the few I've tried. Not sure many of them will still be going now.
Well since Justin viewed it as a public service that I take his 78s off his hands I obliged. Terrible, horrible, rancid juice. Don't know how I've managed it.
You had the 78 Giscours I think, which was nice ten years ago.
And the 78 Las Cases. Which was also nice.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by LGTrotter » 20:34 Sun 27 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:And the 78 Las Cases. Which was also nice.
Never had it, but like most Las Cases I would imagine that you are made to sit up straight and pay attention.

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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by RPA » 18:22 Mon 04 Aug 2014

In the latest twist of the En Primeur Ltd saga, this morning I received a call from Andrew Penman at the Daily Mirror, asking me to talk about my experience with this company. I was tempted to wax lyrical but my natural dislike for journalists (especially of the trashy tabloid variety) held me back.

Seems like this guy is in the right department though:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/authors/andrew-penman/

Presumably he got my name from the creditor register. I'm ahead of you in the alphabet Derek so you can probably expect a call soon...

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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by DRT » 18:32 Mon 04 Aug 2014

Can't say I was too chuffed about having my personal data published without my consent and this is exactly why. I've already had junk mail from one company on the creditors list.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by AHB » 11:26 Tue 05 Aug 2014

I suspect that this is an untested area of the application of the Data Protection Act and it's recent amendments. If you feel strongly, make a complaint via the Regulator's website. Complain about both the Administrator's publication of the data and also the marketing company's unauthorised use of it.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by djewesbury » 00:32 Fri 12 Sep 2014

Wine Society daily drinking experiment. Didn't get round to this before, with being away.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by DaveRL » 22:24 Tue 30 Sep 2014

I bought some of the Wine Society 2010 Pauillac at £19.95 or so. I vaguely remembered other vintages selling out rather quickly, and indeed this one did too. It had a recommended drinking window to 2025 (and they are conservative): longer than most, hence I felt it might be interesting. One day when I get some to hand I'll report.

More usefully perhaps, I today bought some Ch Montlandrie 2009 from Fine and Rare at £170+ a case, assuming they still have some left. It appears to have received reasonable reviews. This one more of a stab in the dark.

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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by DRT » 22:40 Tue 30 Sep 2014

DaveRL wrote:from Fine and Rare at £170+ a case, assuming they still have some left.
Exactly why I don't order from them very often. Agonising about pulling the trigger followed by three weeks of silence and a (paraphrased) "sorry, we never had it in the first place" drives me nuts. There are too many good wine merchants around to have to use this shoddy service.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by djewesbury » 23:23 Tue 30 Sep 2014

DaveRL wrote:I bought some of the Wine Society 2010 Pauillac at £19.95 or so. I vaguely remembered other vintages selling out rather quickly, and indeed this one did too. It had a recommended drinking window to 2025 (and they are conservative): longer than most, hence I felt it might be interesting. One day when I get some to hand I'll report.

More usefully perhaps, I today bought some Ch Montlandrie 2009 from Fine and Rare at £170+ a case, assuming they still have some left. It appears to have received reasonable reviews. This one more of a stab in the dark.
Exhibition Pauillac TN now posted.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by LGTrotter » 20:53 Thu 02 Oct 2014

DaveRL wrote:I bought some of the Wine Society 2010 Pauillac at £19.95 or so. I vaguely remembered other vintages selling out rather quickly, and indeed this one did too. It had a recommended drinking window to 2025 (and they are conservative): longer than most, hence I felt it might be interesting. One day when I get some to hand I'll report.
Good luck, I bought some of their 2005 Paulliac which was very good, but as hard as nails. I finished it all years ago, long before it was really ready. Ho-hum.

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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by LGTrotter » 20:56 Thu 02 Oct 2014

DRT wrote:
DaveRL wrote:from Fine and Rare at £170+ a case, assuming they still have some left.
Exactly why I don't order from them very often. Agonising about pulling the trigger followed by three weeks of silence and a (paraphrased) "sorry, we never had it in the first place" drives me nuts. There are too many good wine merchants around to have to use this shoddy service.
I see somebody on :ftlop2014: was recommending them for a place to buy while on holiday. Sounds like they might need to be on holiday for some months to get a delivery.

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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by DaveRL » 13:33 Fri 03 Oct 2014

LGTrotter wrote:
DaveRL wrote:I bought some of the Wine Society 2010 Pauillac at £19.95 or so. I vaguely remembered other vintages selling out rather quickly, and indeed this one did too. It had a recommended drinking window to 2025 (and they are conservative): longer than most, hence I felt it might be interesting. One day when I get some to hand I'll report.
Good luck, I bought some of their 2005 Paulliac which was very good, but as hard as nails. I finished it all years ago, long before it was really ready. Ho-hum.
Hmm. I expected 2010 to need some time. Perhaps a lot of time then. :o
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DaveRL wrote:from Fine and Rare at £170+ a case, assuming they still have some left.
Exactly why I don't order from them very often. Agonising about pulling the trigger followed by three weeks of silence and a (paraphrased) "sorry, we never had it in the first place" drives me nuts. There are too many good wine merchants around to have to use this shoddy service.
I see somebody on :ftlop2014: was recommending them for a place to buy while on holiday. Sounds like they might need to be on holiday for some months to get a delivery.
F+R had been OK so far. Have not had a reply this time - downside is uncertainty, upside is free storage and I haven't paid. Not ideal, no. Perhaps I'll try cancelling this one.

Seckford Wines (James) I've found excellent. Had an issue recently, and all resolved most admirably. Exactly what I'd hoped.

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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by djewesbury » 13:57 Fri 03 Oct 2014

The Exhibition Pauillac (bottled by Rothschild) is 2006 not 2010. Rather lovely right now.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by DaveRL » 14:44 Fri 03 Oct 2014

I thought it was a Wine Society declassified wine I bought. I dug into the website. It is not. It is Ulysse Pauillac 2010 , sold through the Wine Society via their "special relationship". Sorry for the mistake. Declassified Latour supposedly. I'm never sure about these sorts of wines, often seeming to be produced in rather too large an amount to be other than marketing guff, but this one sells out fast, has a reasonable reputation on CellerTracker, and the Wine Society is, well, what it is I suppose. They gave it an excellent write up. Even if it is declassified, it will be the extra lots that didn't fit in the blend for some reason, warts and all, but perhaps these have worth if they have balance. Perhaps I've been burnt (again).

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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by AW77 » 23:36 Fri 03 Oct 2014

The 2005 Malescasse is quite a good everyday claret:
http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8959
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by AW77 » 18:20 Sat 04 Oct 2014

In their current weekly advertisement brochure, Lidl present a wide range of French wines. You can find it online here: http://www.lidl-pageflip.com/debm.html?kid=9ZvHQv
Besides some Cru Bourgeois wines they offer half bottles of 1998 Château d'Yquem in their online wineshop:
http://www.lidl.de/de/sauternes-grand-c ... yquem-1998
That's not the Lidl I used to know. I wonder what D'Yquem will think of this unusual retailer.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by djewesbury » 22:24 Sat 04 Oct 2014

My local Lidl has 2008 Sociando Mallet for £25.99. I churlishly find this overpriced for Lidl.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by DRT » 19:37 Sat 11 Oct 2014

DRT wrote:Added to the Seckfords stash yesterday for the extortionate sum of £125 IB...
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The first bottle from this case opened this evening.

A nice, rich, mature red colour. Lots of dark fruit on the nose and the palate. Very round, smooth and full in the mouth. The finish is of medium length and still has quite a bit of tannin. This wine is not complicated in any way but is very pleasant and still has lots of life about it. A splendid purchase at this price.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by LGTrotter » 01:22 Sun 12 Oct 2014

DRT wrote:A nice, rich, mature red colour. Lots of dark fruit on the nose and the palate. Very round, smooth and full in the mouth. The finish is of medium length and still has quite a bit of tannin. This wine is not complicated in any way but is very pleasant and still has lots of life about it. A splendid purchase at this price.
Always a good feeling to have found a bargain, the 95s are better than their reputation but Canon Fronsac I have been unlucky with. Seckfords do seem to turn up some bargains.

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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by DRT » 11:42 Wed 26 Nov 2014

I just bagged an unopened OWC of Chateau Gloria 1985 for £400 all in 88)
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Post by djewesbury » 14:42 Wed 26 Nov 2014

I need a cheap Bordeaux scout - no, I need a scout for cheap Bordeaux. Any volunteers? Thought not.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by DRT » 13:26 Sat 29 Nov 2014

DRT wrote:I just bagged an unopened OWC of Chateau Gloria 1985 for £400 all in 88)
This morning the merchant wrote:Derek,

I have just opened the case.

The contents were something of a surprise!

Only four bottles of Gloria 1985 plus sundry other bottles and an old school blanket!
Refund incoming.
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Post by djewesbury » 13:35 Sat 29 Nov 2014

Ouch
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by DRT » 10:50 Sun 30 Nov 2014

I have gone off-piste and ordered a case of La Rioja Alta from the :ws: - 6x Viña Arana Reserva 2005 and 6x 904 Gran Reserve 2001.

Yummy.
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Re: Bordeaux Recommendations

Post by LGTrotter » 01:17 Mon 01 Dec 2014

DRT wrote:I have gone off-piste and ordered a case of La Rioja Alta from the :ws: - 6x Viña Arana Reserva 2005 and 6x 904 Gran Reserve 2001.

Yummy.
Hurray! Room for a bit of everything. And as you have said before if you decide you don't like it, you can flog it.

I must say I have paced up and down fretfully wondering if my life would be complete without the 904 Gran thingy. So far I am coping without it. It is a good price though.

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