Tues 5 May, The Best of the Fonseca Bicentennial Tastings

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Looking at Winesearcher, both Christopher Keiller and The Four Walls Wine Company are offering F80. Both sites have a list that is almost identical, so perhaps they are in some way related businesses. Has anyone purchased from these places before? It looks like it would be £50-60 incl delivery - for the sake of plugging the only gap in the line-up (excepting everything pre 55!), should we get a bottle? I'm relaxed either way.
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flash_uk wrote:(excepting everything pre 55!)
And ≥1994.

No objection from me. F80 is not a Fonseca-ish Fonseca, so no enthusiasm either.
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Four Walls are reliable and a properly run shop. I am curious but like Julian I am not desperate for this to be there. I will survive if it isn't.
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Sadly I am unable to attend, but if I weren't, I would be bringing a bottle blind, and that bottle would be the Fg86.

Suck it !


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Mike: the table in the Red Room is “4.3 A4 heights by 22.3 A4 widths”, so would easily accommodate three A4 of glasses each. Please re-assure that we have the Red Room.
Chris Doty wrote:Sadly I am unable to attend, but if I weren't, I would be bringing a bottle blind, and that bottle would be the Fg86.
It is a sighted tasting, so bottles should be sighted. But FG86 would have been welcome.
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flash_uk wrote:The food order for the event has been updated.
No grilled tomato with my main thanks; unless you have deliberately left it on because we are all giving Derek or Julian extra vegetables.
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flash_uk wrote:Looking at Winesearcher, both Christopher Keiller and The Four Walls Wine Company are offering F80. Both sites have a list that is almost identical, so perhaps they are in some way related businesses. Has anyone purchased from these places before? It looks like it would be £50-60 incl delivery - for the sake of plugging the only gap in the line-up (excepting everything pre 55!), should we get a bottle? I'm relaxed either way.
I would fill the gap, in part for completeness since we're so close, but also because I've never had F80. I have used Four Walls before without problem, but not Keiller (since I think they generally require a case+). Also, have we asked Tom if he might be able to help?
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PhilW wrote:No grilled tomato with my main thanks; unless you have deliberately left it on because we are all giving Derek or Julian extra vegetables.
Please may I be seated within grilled-tomato-passing distance of Phil.
PhilW wrote:also because I've never had F80.
It has just been promoted from ‘optional’ to ‘important’. I now vote yes.
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Chris Doty wrote:Sadly I am unable to attend...
Your will be missed - another opportunity will present no doubt!
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jdaw1 wrote:Please re-assure that we have the Red Room.
Yes indeed we have the red room, top post updated.
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jdaw1 wrote:
PhilW wrote:No grilled tomato with my main thanks; unless you have deliberately left it on because we are all giving Derek or Julian extra vegetables.
Please may I be seated within grilled-tomato-passing distance of Phil.
Ah, the cut and paste demolished the strikethrough. The grilled tomato will find a worthy home...
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PhilW wrote:I would fill the gap, in part for completeness since we're so close, but also because I've never had F80. I have used Four Walls before without problem, but not Keiller (since I think they generally require a case+). Also, have we asked Tom if he might be able to help?
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PhilW wrote:also because I've never had F80.
It has just been promoted from ‘optional’ to ‘important’. I now vote yes.
OK, we'll try and fill the gap. I have been browsing :tpf: tasting notes on F80, it sounds like a curious variable beast. During that search I happened upon a review of an 80s horizontal some 7 years ago, which seems to have been a monumental event!

I'll ping Tom a message and see if he can help, otherwise it's Four Walls.
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flash_uk wrote:I happened upon a review of an 80s horizontal some 7 years ago, which seems to have been a monumental event!
Ahh yes. In those days a tasting would crystallise around the date of my arrival in the UK from NY. And I brought the 1980 Hutcheson (‘To taste I wrote only ‟bad”.’).
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Top post updated for who can bring what. I've taken an executive decision that DRT and MPM do not need to bring 85 Single, as we both already need to transport other bottles, and DRL has the 85 available.

Edit: And for the 70, we can decide what to do once RLC has firmed up options.
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Sorry - I just realised I've made no arrangement re adoption. Please, what do I need to bring? I can be responsible for the 80 if required..? Has THRA already been asked re this?
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djewesbury wrote:Sorry - I just realised I've made no arrangement re adoption. Please, what do I need to bring? I can be responsible for the 80 if required..? Has THRA already been asked re this?
Yes Tom has been asked - we'll collect and equalise all the costs, so you just need to bring your wallet :D
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I have both the F'70 and F'80 secured from Tom...so adopt away whoever has the need. :)
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Cookie wrote:I have both the F'70 and F'80 secured from Tom...so adopt away whoever has the need. :)
Splendid - many thanks to both you and Tom!
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Please post reasoning and preferences about when the magnum of F85 should be decanted. It could even be split, one decanted bottle being stored in the fridge and the other at room temperature (in which case it should have two circles on the placemats).
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jdaw1 wrote:Please post reasoning and preferences about when the magnum of F85 should be decanted.
I'm always in favour of a 24hr (or longer) decant time for F85. What time was used for your event in Cambridge recently?
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flash_uk wrote:I'm always in favour of a 24hr (or longer) decant time for F85. What time was used for your event in Cambridge recently?
About ten hours.
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I second Mike's suggestion. Give it plenty of time. 24 hours would not be unreasonable.
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OK, just one week to go. A quick reminder of who is bringing what:

IDJ - 1955, 1960, 1966
TC - 1963, 1975
DRT - 1970, 1992
PW - 1977
RLC - 1970, 1980
CPR - 1983
DRL - 1985 Single
JDAW - 1985 Magnum
MPM - Waterloo, Bincentenary Crusted and a backup 70

I might also be able to lay my hands on a 1994.

ACTION: Can everyone let me know by PM total costs for their bottles so that I can work out overall costs. Thanks.
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Updated current draft of the placemats (or see first post).
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Sorry, Chaps, I now need to be at the wrong end f the country on Tuesday so cannot join you.

As my 1970 is one of a triplicate I shall simply save that for another day. I have no way of getting the 1992 to the venue on time but if someone else puts one in they can have one from the team stock as compensation. If not, the 1992 will join another appropriate tasting.

Sorry for the late notice but this is unavoidable.
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