Tues 5 May, The Best of the Fonseca Bicentennial Tastings

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DRT wrote:I have no way of getting the 1992 to the venue on time but if someone else puts one in they can have one from the team stock as compensation. If not, the 1992 will join another appropriate tasting.
I don't have one, but if we don't have any between us then I note that BBR have in-bond stock at £54 (ib).
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Before DRT’s announcement we had fifteen bottles for thirteen people. If we don’t replace his bottles we become thirteen bottles for a dozen people, which would be less than our standard per capita.
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DRT wrote:Sorry, Chaps, I now need to be at the wrong end f the country on Tuesday so cannot join you.

As my 1970 is one of a triplicate I shall simply save that for another day. I have no way of getting the 1992 to the venue on time but if someone else puts one in they can have one from the team stock as compensation. If not, the 1992 will join another appropriate tasting.

Sorry for the late notice but this is unavoidable.
Sorry you can't make it Derek. I think I've got a case of 92 at home - I'll check tonight. Suggest we revert back to the one 70 from THRA/RLC.
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jdaw1 wrote:Before DRT’s announcement we had fifteen bottles for thirteen people. If we don’t replace his bottles we become thirteen bottles for a dozen people, which would be less than our standard per capita.
If I can turn up a 92 (and maybe a 94), we'll then have 14 (or 15) bottles (one of which is a magnum), for 11 people (or 12 if THRA makes it).
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flash_uk wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Before DRT’s announcement we had fifteen bottles for thirteen people. If we don’t replace his bottles we become thirteen bottles for a dozen people, which would be less than our standard per capita.
If I can turn up a 92 (and maybe a 94), we'll then have 14 (or 15) bottles (one of which is a magnum), for 11 people (or 12 if THRA makes it).
A cakewalk for JDAW but still a goodly number of bottles-good job I've 'only' the BFT the following day :D

I have a case of F92 but unfotunateley they're stored at Seckfords and so I can't readily lay my hands on a bottle.
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I've been rather absent of late, but this caught my eye and if the planets align (meaning I am granted a pass and a space at the table remains!) I would love to join you!
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benread wrote:I've been rather absent of late, but this caught my eye and if the planets align (meaning I am granted a pass and a space at the table remains!) I would love to join you!
You're in! Pass permitting :)
Got any Fonseca 1920? :wink:
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flash_uk wrote:Got any Fonseca 1920?
If there’s a choice — and I know that there might not be — I’d prefer the 1927. If it would help we could start a poll to decide which.
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jdaw1 wrote:
flash_uk wrote:Got any Fonseca 1920?
If there’s a choice — and I know that there might not be — I’d prefer the 1927. If it would help we could start a poll to decide which.
Actually, upon reflection, if we are allowed to reach into the Leviticus rack (IIRC, Ben named his wine storage bins and racks after the books of the Old Testament) then one of those magnums of Fonseca 1896 would be particularly welcome. And a very modest late-booking fee it would be.
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jdaw1 wrote:
flash_uk wrote:Got any Fonseca 1920?
If there’s a choice — and I know that there might not be — I’d prefer the 1927. If it would help we could start a poll to decide which.
If there's a choice — and I know that there might not be — I'd prefer both, please.
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flash_uk wrote:
benread wrote:I've been rather absent of late, but this caught my eye and if the planets align (meaning I am granted a pass and a space at the table remains!) I would love to join you!
You're in! Pass permitting :)
Got any Fonseca 1920? :wink:
The 'wifely' pass is looking promising. If the ticket is a bottle of Fonseca 1920 or 1927, then I am out again! If financial contribution is an option...

I will confirm tomorrow if that is OK?
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benread wrote:
flash_uk wrote:
benread wrote:I've been rather absent of late, but this caught my eye and if the planets align (meaning I am granted a pass and a space at the table remains!) I would love to join you!
You're in! Pass permitting :)
Got any Fonseca 1920? :wink:
The 'wifely' pass is looking promising. If the ticket is a bottle of Fonseca 1920 or 1927, then I am out again! If financial contribution is an option...

I will confirm tomorrow if that is OK?
Sounds good!
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flash_uk wrote:I think I've got a case of 92 at home - I'll check tonight. Suggest we revert back to the one 70 from THRA/RLC.
I do indeed have a 92, so that is sorted. I am working on also having a 94 in time for Tuesday. Julian - hold off on placemat updates for the moment until I can confirm one way or the other on the 94.
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benread wrote:If the ticket is a bottle of Fonseca 1920 or 1927, then I am out again!
Not at all: 1896 entirely acceptable.
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benread wrote:if the planets align (meaning I am granted a pass...
Pass granted.

What scope to negotiate on the last stumbling block?
jdaw1 wrote:
benread wrote:If the ticket is a bottle of Fonseca 1920 or 1927, then I am out again!
Not at all: 1896 entirely acceptable.
:oops: (At lack of Fonseca 1896 lying idly in his cellar!)
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benread wrote:Pass granted.

What scope to negotiate on the last stumbling block?
Excellent. We're in good shape with supplies...just bring yourself! We're averaging and splitting the costs.
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flash_uk wrote:
benread wrote:Pass granted.

What scope to negotiate on the last stumbling block?
Excellent. We're in good shape with supplies...just bring yourself! We're averaging and splitting the costs.
So if I find that Fonseca 1896 I am sure I had lying around somewhere, you don't want it?Image


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Next Tuesday I am tied up at the office until around 6pm, which means getting to the B&F for about 6.30pm. Given the number of bottles and the full quota of attendees, some pre-pouring is likely to be helpful. Is anyone able to get there a bit early, and is anyone able to get there a bit early with printed placemats?
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I can help set up from about 17:30, can't help with the printing though.

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flash_uk wrote:People:
  1. MPM (70, 85, Bicentenary Crusted, Waterloo)
  2. AHB (48)
  3. DJ
  4. JDAW (85 Mag)
  5. PW (77)
  6. IDJ (55, 60, 66)
  7. JWEW (adopting)
  8. CPR (83)
  9. DRL (85 or adopting)
  10. TC (63,75)
  11. RLC (70, 80)
  12. BMHR
  13. Available
  14. Available
Bottles:
  1. 1948 - AHB
  2. 1955 - IDJ
  3. 1960 - IDJ
  4. 1963 - TC
  5. 1966 - IDJ
  6. 1970 - MPM, RLC
  7. 1975 - TC
  8. 1977 - PW
  9. 1980 - RLC
  10. 1983 - CPR
  11. 1985 Magnum - JDAW
  12. 1992 - MPM
  13. Waterloo - MPM
  14. Bincentenary Crusted - MPM
My work commitments on Tuesday and Wednesday do not include dinner on Tuesday night so I am now confirmed and have reflected that in an edit to the quote of Mike's first post above. I've also tweaked the post to reflect the fact that DRT will be elsewhere and that Mike has a '92 so that I can see what bottles and which people are attending.

There's too much of a gap between the oldest and the next oldest if I bring the 1896 so instead I propose to bring a bottle of 1948 Fonseca. That makes 16 bottles (counting the magnum as two bottles) between 12 people. That's quite ambitious for a school night, especially when I have an early start and do have to work the following day!

I'm likely to arrive a little later than 6.30pm so won't be able to help pre-pour or bring print-outs.
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AHB wrote:There's too much of a gap between the oldest and the next oldest if I bring the 1896 so instead I propose to bring a bottle of 1948 Fonseca.
Not if you bring both.

(And thank you sir.)

flash_uk wrote:Next Tuesday I am tied up at the office until around 6pm, which means getting to the B&F for about 6.30pm. Given the number of bottles and the full quota of attendees, some pre-pouring is likely to be helpful. Is anyone able to get there a bit early, and is anyone able to get there a bit early with printed placemats?
My SWMBO doesn’t want me to leave Streatham early. If necessary I could, expensively, appeal and plead. So have me down as a reserve.


Updated draft of the placemats (or see first post, not forgetting to re-load its images).
  • +1948 (AHB);
  • +1994 (MPM);
  • Just one pre-pouring sheet, the 1948, which can then be used as a measure for all to self-pour. Is this satisfactory?
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AHB wrote:
flash_uk wrote:People:
  1. MPM (70, 85, Bicentenary Crusted, Waterloo)
  2. AHB (48)
  3. DJ
  4. JDAW (85 Mag)
  5. PW (77)
  6. IDJ (55, 60, 66)
  7. JWEW (adopting)
  8. CPR (83)
  9. DRL (85 or adopting)
  10. TC (63,75)
  11. RLC (70, 80)
  12. BMHR
  13. Available
  14. Available
Bottles:
  1. 1948 - AHB
  2. 1955 - IDJ
  3. 1960 - IDJ
  4. 1963 - TC
  5. 1966 - IDJ
  6. 1970 - MPM, RLC
  7. 1975 - TC
  8. 1977 - PW
  9. 1980 - RLC
  10. 1983 - CPR
  11. 1985 Magnum - JDAW
  12. 1992 - MPM
  13. Waterloo - MPM
  14. Bincentenary Crusted - MPM
My work commitments on Tuesday and Wednesday do not include dinner on Tuesday night so I am now confirmed and have reflected that in an edit to the quote of Mike's first post above. I've also tweaked the post to reflect the fact that DRT will be elsewhere and that Mike has a '92 so that I can see what bottles and which people are attending.

There's too much of a gap between the oldest and the next oldest if I bring the 1896 so instead I propose to bring a bottle of 1948 Fonseca. That makes 16 bottles (counting the magnum as two bottles) between 12 people. That's quite ambitious for a school night, especially when I have an early start and do have to work the following day!

I'm likely to arrive a little later than 6.30pm so won't be able to help pre-pour or bring print-outs.
17 I think - even more ambitious - the 1985 single I am bringing is not on this list but is on the placemats.
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Top post updated with various amendments. Two spare slots available, which may or may not be filled by THRA and RDA. So as things stand, 17 equivalent 75cl bottles shared between 12-14 people. What's not to like?

Edit: perhaps we skip the Waterloo if only 12?
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AHB wrote:My work commitments on Tuesday and Wednesday do not include dinner on Tuesday night so I am now confirmed and have reflected that in an edit to the quote of Mike's first post above...
There's too much of a gap between the oldest and the next oldest if I bring the 1896 so instead I propose to bring a bottle of 1948 Fonseca.
Delighted you can make it Alex, and thank you for extending the length of the vertical in the older direction 88)
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flash_uk wrote:Edit: perhaps we skip the Waterloo if only 12?
Warerloo appropriate to the date: perhaps instead skip 1994?
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