New York, ¿Thu 03 Jan ’08?

[jfacciol]

I would be happy to adopt a colheita bottle as it is not something that I have collected yet.

[EricD]

Eric,

If you open the Moreira 1966, I suggest opening it about 1-2 weeks prior to the offline. This sounds crazy, I know. But Jay, Roy, and I have all had this on different occassions and have all discovered it makes a rather large turn around and becomes a very good Colheita after being open that long. Prior to the long decant its not that good. I can't explain it and no one else can either....just one of the mysteries of life I guess.

Andy, that's not a crazy suggestion at all, because I had a similar experience. It improved greatly after being open a week. But then that makes me wonder about how we might want to handle the other bottles.

With decanting a VP, there are lots of guidelines we can go by, but I can't think of how one might want to approach decanting/aerating an older Colheita, as cask age and bottling date tend to complicate the matter. For instance, a recently bottled Colheita probably wouldn't need any special treatment, but one that had been in the bottle 5-10 years probably would require decanting.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

[Alex Bridgeman]

The best person to give advice on decanting times for colheitas, especially old colheitas, might be Roy given the bottles he opened and served for his birthday. He's also the person I know who has drunk a wider range of colheita ports than anyone else I know.

Alex

[EricD]

I haven't had time to go to Newark yet, but I did pick up a few bottles that are currently up for adoption. Here's my current list of adoptable bottles:

1952 Dalva Golden White Colheita
1963 Feist Colheita
1966 Moreira Colheita
1979 Delaforce Colheita (500 ml)
1983 Rocha Colheita
1986 Delaforce Colheita (500 ml)

You can pm me if you are interested in adopting one for the January tasting.

[g-man]

I'll adopt

The Moreira 66
The Delaforce 79

One of which is Julian's for our upcoming tasting in Jan.

[EricD]

I finally made it to Newark today, so I have a few more Colheitas that will be up for adoption for the January tasting. My personal contribution will be the Dalva 1952 Golden White. Here's what I picked up today:

Andresen 1980 Colheita
Smith Woodhouse 1986 Colheita
Krohn 1990 Colheita
Messias 1990 Colheita

I'm a little skeptical of the Messias, having had (and not liked) the 1985 Messias VP. But who knows, the Colheita might be pretty good.

[jdaw1]

EricD:

1. The question of the date is becoming a bit of a farce. Everybody can make some dates, nobody can make all, and some don’t even know which they can do.
2. This tasting is going to be centred around your Colheitas, and your knowledge of Colheitas.

So after reading what’s already been said, please, you pick a date any date and see who’s in.

[EricD]

I will elect Thursday, January 3rd for Colheita-thon. Who thinks they can make it?

[jdaw1]

Thread title changed to ‟New York, ¿Thu 03 Jan ’08?”. I’m in.

[g-man]

Very likely Yay.

[Raveesh]

Yay. Also, eligible foster parent seeking adoption.

[jdaw1]

I declare four to be quorate.

[jdaw1]

Eric: let’s not do adoption for the Colheita tasting. You’re providing all the bottles, so why not tell us the bad news and we will split it n ways?

Also, location? Where do we want to do this? I’d like some variety, arguing against the usual 83rd Street venue.

[jfacciol]

Jan 3d sounds fine as does Julian's suggestion of just splitting the cost of the bottles. I agree that another venue would be fun but I can't recommend anything for next week. I admire Eric for coming on public transportation to Manhattan but I don't think I would do the reverse.

If we do a 1970 tasting sometime in 2008 (which I think would be interesting and for which I could supply all or most of the bottles, depending on what folks have), I would volunteer my home in Brooklyn, which is in the Carroll Gardens neighborhood and about a half-hour from mid-town Manhattan on the F line.

[jdaw1]

This post moved to new thread New York Late February or March-1970 VP Tasting, to keep this thread on-subject.

[EricD]

Eric: let’s not do adoption for the Colheita tasting. You’re providing all the bottles, so why not tell us the bad news and we will split it n ways?

Also, location? Where do we want to do this? I’d like some variety, arguing against the usual 83rd Street venue.

That's a good idea. Once we figure out how many people will be able to attend (I also have a friend who has expressed some interest in joining us) I'll decide which colheitas to bring and then I'll figure out the amount per person.

Can't think of any good venues right now. I'm actually fine with Citron since you have already established a relationship with them.

[g-man]

If you guys want a steakhouse, I know one of the general manager, bartender and waiter at the Palm on 50th and 8th.

But it's just a suggestion, it does get quite pricey food wise but they'll wave the corkage fee for me.

[jdaw1]

I thought Citron would do same for me, but last time they added a ‟table charge” of $100. So more than one string to our bow might be wise.

[Raveesh]

I like the idea of the Palm, sounds yummy!

[jdaw1]

Is that The Palm: New York West Side? Google Maps?

[g-man]

Yes it is the palm on the west side,
Shall we pick this as the location for our colheita tasting?

[jdaw1]

Works for me. But EricD is in charge of the Colheita tasting, so his call.

[jfacciol]

Palm would work fine for me also.

[g-man]

okay I put a call in and left the message with one of the waiters to see if we can bring 8 bottles.

Will post update when i get it.

I'm going to shoot for a 7 ol clock reservation for 6 people.

People attending are:

Eric
Julian
Jay
Raveesh
Steph
Jeff

Let me know if we're adding anymore people.

[jdaw1]

Eric: let us know what we’re having, both to invite others and for placemats.