1991 & 1992, date TBD

[Axel P]

So what possible pairs are we looking for:

Niepoort both
La Rosa both
Burmester both
Churchill both
Kopke both
Smith Woodhouse both
Vesuvio both
Graham 91 full, 92 Malvedos
Dow 91 full, 92 Bomfim
Warre 91 full, 92 Cavadinha
Taylor 91 Vargellas, 92 full
Fonseca 91 Guimaraens, 92 full
Delaforce Corte 91, 92 full

Which one(s) am I missing? Let me know which ones I should supply

Axel

[jdaw1]

Niepoort both
La Rosa both
Graham 91 full, 92 Malvedos
Dow 91 full, 92 Bomfim
Warre 91 full, 92 Cavadinha
Taylor 91 Vargellas, 92 full
Fonseca 91 Guimaraens, 92 full

Excellent, thank you. If necessary, would you be willing to provide most, with financial equalisation?

[djewesbury]

Dirk is unable to join us that evening.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Please put me down for a seat at the table, if there is still space.

[jdaw1]

People:

1. Sophia B.;
2. Julian W.;
3. Daniel J.;
4. Rachel B.;
5. Rob C.;
6. Christopher G.;
7. Derek T.;
8. Charles R.;
9. Axel P.;
10. Axel P.’s +1.;
11. Alex B.

AHB added. Anybody missing?

[jdaw1]

Bottles available:

1. 1991 Quinta de la Rosa (Sophia B., and Axel P.);
2. 1992 Quinta de la Rosa (Sophia B., and Axel P.);
3. 1991 Niepoort (Axel P.);
4. 1992 Niepoort (Axel P.);
5. 1991 Burmester (Axel P.);
6. 1992 Burmester (Axel P.);
7. 1991 Churchill (Axel P.);
8. 1992 Churchill (Axel P.);
9. 1991 Kopke (Axel P.);
10. 1992 Kopke (Axel P.);
11. 1991 Smith Woodhouse (Axel P.);
12. 1992 Smith Woodhouse (Axel P.);
13. 1991 Vesuvio (Axel P.);
14. 1992 Vesuvio (Axel P.);
15. 1991 Graham (Axel P.);
16. 1992 Graham Quinta dos Malvedos (Axel P.);
17. 1991 Dow (Axel P.);
18. 1992 Dow Quinta do Bomfim (Axel P.);
19. 1991 Warre (Axel P.);
20. 1992 Warre Quinta da Cavadinha (Axel P.);
21. 1991 Taylor Quinta de Vargellas (Axel P.);
22. 1992 Taylor (Axel P.);
23. 1991 Fonseca Guimaraens (Axel P.);
24. 1992 Fonseca (Stephen Eggins via DRT, and Axel P.);
25. 1991 Delaforce Quinta da Corte (Axel P.);
26. 1992 Delaforce (Axel P.).

Does anybody other than Axel have stocks of ’91s or ’92s?

[RAYC]

Apologies - did not see i had been added to the list.

I found my enjoyment of BFT slightly compromised last year by the drinking that went on the night before, so think i will be having a quiet night at home on 23rd.

[jdaw1]

Apologies - did not see i had been added to the list.

No harm done. Due to a slight failure of belief on my part, I’ve moved you to a new section entitled ‟People (waitlist, and possibles)”.

[jdaw1]

What format?

Let’s assume that we are about a dozen people, and have about 1.6 bottles each. (So a dozen people and a score bottles, or a fortnight of people and twenty-two bottles.)

I think that blind would be difficult in the limited working room of the Bung Hole. So I propose sighted.

If somebody disagrees, wanting blind, complete or partial” , that person has to take charge of set-up. As in, plan, devise, be there, arrange, oversee, supervise, and make happen in all relevant ways. Absent same, it will be sighted.

”  Possibilities. Lots of bottles, totally blind. Or, lots of pairs of bottles, shipper matching but unidentified, and also unknown being which is ’91 and which is ’92. Or, lots of pairs of bottles, identified shipper (e.g., these two are Smith Woodhouse), but which is ’91 and which is ’92 being unknown.

[DRT]

I think partially sighted with only the vintage within each shipper pair unknown. I think that is the only practical way to eliminate vintage bias whilst having relevant "this is better than this" commentary relating to each pair. Croft 1991 being thought better than Cavadinha 1992 would be a redundant outcome in the context of this tasting. Malvedos 1992 being better than Graham 1991 would be enlightening.

[PhilW]

I agree with Derek, but as I am unlikely to be able to attend, can be ignored. Would also require considerable co-ordination.

[DRT]

I agree with Derek, but as I am unlikely to be able to attend, can be ignored. Would also require considerable co-ordination.

A plan:

• The bottles are assembled in the home of one of the attendees that is within six miles of the venue.
• The bottles are decanted fully sighted by the home-owner and DRT.
• DRT takes each shipper pair to the kitchen where the {wondering what all the fuss is about} spouse of the home-owner awaits.
• The home-owner's spouse wraps the bottles in foil and places them in a box.
• Repeat for each shipper.

[jdaw1]

I agree that it would be nice to have. But I don't agree with my doing it in the Bunghole.

[jdaw1]

the b.f.t. 2014 on Thursday, 24th April

So Wednesday 23^rd April is a possibility for ’60 versus ’63.

I’m sorry folks, but I completely forgot this when arranging the ’91-’92 with Sophia Bergqvist of Quinta de la Rosa.

My fault. I’m sorry about forgetting the date of the ’60-’63.

My fault. Dates for two events need to be finalised, one of which is to be Wednesday 23^rd April 2014.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Late to put my hand up again! Can I be added to a reserve list if no immediate place available (as it looks)? I'll have a root around to see what I've got or else I'll secure in hope.

Ian

Should I be number 12 with Ian as number 11?

[jdaw1]

Should I be number 12 with Ian as number 11?

Names are being accepted in order of request: IDJ = 10; AHB = 11.

Ian: sorry I missed your post.

[djewesbury]

If this has already been arranged with Sophia we should stick with this date.

[jdaw1]

If this has already been arranged with Sophia we should stick with this date.

Over four months in advance, and only a little time after Sophia was asked, she might understand and forgive a careless clash. If Dirk was asked first, and he accepted, then his stands. If not, Sophia’s stands.

[PhilW]

If this is replacement, rather than as well as the 60vs63, then I'm in also.

[djewesbury]

I have emailed EDN to clarify.

[Alex Bridgeman]

I’m sorry folks, but I completely forgot this when arranging the ’91-’92 with Sophia Bergqvist of Quinta de la Rosa.

As did everyone - me included - when volunteering to attend!

[jdaw1]

As did everyone - me included - when volunteering to attend!

Everyone except Tom.

[djewesbury]

it looks to me that 23 april is just fine for me !
what is the audouze method?? i would rather taste the 60 / 63 side by side. clearly.

We need a new date for the 91/92 tasting. Julian, when would suit Sophia?

[jdaw1]

We need a new date for the 91/92 tasting. Julian, when would suit Sophia?

On task.

[Axel P]

Taylors and Vargellas are vv, meaning vice versa not vinhas velhas.

Axel