1991 & 1992, date TBD
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
So what possible pairs are we looking for:
Niepoort both
La Rosa both
Burmester both
Churchill both
Kopke both
Smith Woodhouse both
Vesuvio both
Graham 91 full, 92 Malvedos
Dow 91 full, 92 Bomfim
Warre 91 full, 92 Cavadinha
Taylor 91 Vargellas, 92 full
Fonseca 91 Guimaraens, 92 full
Delaforce Corte 91, 92 full
Which one(s) am I missing? Let me know which ones I should supply
Axel
Niepoort both
La Rosa both
Burmester both
Churchill both
Kopke both
Smith Woodhouse both
Vesuvio both
Graham 91 full, 92 Malvedos
Dow 91 full, 92 Bomfim
Warre 91 full, 92 Cavadinha
Taylor 91 Vargellas, 92 full
Fonseca 91 Guimaraens, 92 full
Delaforce Corte 91, 92 full
Which one(s) am I missing? Let me know which ones I should supply
Axel
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
Excellent, thank you. If necessary, would you be willing to provide most, with financial equalisation?Axel P wrote:Niepoort both
La Rosa both
Graham 91 full, 92 Malvedos
Dow 91 full, 92 Bomfim
Warre 91 full, 92 Cavadinha
Taylor 91 Vargellas, 92 full
Fonseca 91 Guimaraens, 92 full
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
Dirk is unable to join us that evening.
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
Please put me down for a seat at the table, if there is still space.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
AHB added. Anybody missing?jdaw1 wrote:People:
- Sophia B.;
- Julian W.;
- Daniel J.;
- Rachel B.;
- Rob C.;
- Christopher G.;
- Derek T.;
- Charles R.;
- Axel P.;
- Axel P.’s +1.;
- Alex B.
Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
Does anybody other than Axel have stocks of ’91s or ’92s?jdaw1 wrote:Bottles available:
- 1991 Quinta de la Rosa (Sophia B., and Axel P.);
- 1992 Quinta de la Rosa (Sophia B., and Axel P.);
- 1991 Niepoort (Axel P.);
- 1992 Niepoort (Axel P.);
- 1991 Burmester (Axel P.);
- 1992 Burmester (Axel P.);
- 1991 Churchill (Axel P.);
- 1992 Churchill (Axel P.);
- 1991 Kopke (Axel P.);
- 1992 Kopke (Axel P.);
- 1991 Smith Woodhouse (Axel P.);
- 1992 Smith Woodhouse (Axel P.);
- 1991 Vesuvio (Axel P.);
- 1992 Vesuvio (Axel P.);
- 1991 Graham (Axel P.);
- 1992 Graham Quinta dos Malvedos (Axel P.);
- 1991 Dow (Axel P.);
- 1992 Dow Quinta do Bomfim (Axel P.);
- 1991 Warre (Axel P.);
- 1992 Warre Quinta da Cavadinha (Axel P.);
- 1991 Taylor Quinta de Vargellas (Axel P.);
- 1992 Taylor (Axel P.);
- 1991 Fonseca Guimaraens (Axel P.);
- 1992 Fonseca (Stephen Eggins via DRT, and Axel P.);
- 1991 Delaforce Quinta da Corte (Axel P.);
- 1992 Delaforce (Axel P.).
Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
Apologies - did not see i had been added to the list.
I found my enjoyment of BFT slightly compromised last year by the drinking that went on the night before, so think i will be having a quiet night at home on 23rd.
I found my enjoyment of BFT slightly compromised last year by the drinking that went on the night before, so think i will be having a quiet night at home on 23rd.
Rob C.
Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
No harm done. Due to a slight failure of belief on my part, I’ve moved you to a new section entitled ‟People (waitlist, and possibles)”.RAYC wrote:Apologies - did not see i had been added to the list.
Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
What format?
Let’s assume that we are about a dozen people, and have about 1.6 bottles each. (So a dozen people and a score bottles, or a fortnight of people and twenty-two bottles.)
I think that blind would be difficult in the limited working room of the Bung Hole. So I propose sighted.
If somebody disagrees, wanting blind, complete or partial” , that person has to take charge of set-up. As in, plan, devise, be there, arrange, oversee, supervise, and make happen in all relevant ways. Absent same, it will be sighted.
” Possibilities. Lots of bottles, totally blind. Or, lots of pairs of bottles, shipper matching but unidentified, and also unknown being which is ’91 and which is ’92. Or, lots of pairs of bottles, identified shipper (e.g., these two are Smith Woodhouse), but which is ’91 and which is ’92 being unknown.
Let’s assume that we are about a dozen people, and have about 1.6 bottles each. (So a dozen people and a score bottles, or a fortnight of people and twenty-two bottles.)
I think that blind would be difficult in the limited working room of the Bung Hole. So I propose sighted.
If somebody disagrees, wanting blind, complete or partial” , that person has to take charge of set-up. As in, plan, devise, be there, arrange, oversee, supervise, and make happen in all relevant ways. Absent same, it will be sighted.
” Possibilities. Lots of bottles, totally blind. Or, lots of pairs of bottles, shipper matching but unidentified, and also unknown being which is ’91 and which is ’92. Or, lots of pairs of bottles, identified shipper (e.g., these two are Smith Woodhouse), but which is ’91 and which is ’92 being unknown.
Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
I think partially sighted with only the vintage within each shipper pair unknown. I think that is the only practical way to eliminate vintage bias whilst having relevant "this is better than this" commentary relating to each pair. Croft 1991 being thought better than Cavadinha 1992 would be a redundant outcome in the context of this tasting. Malvedos 1992 being better than Graham 1991 would be enlightening.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
I agree with Derek, but as I am unlikely to be able to attend, can be ignored. Would also require considerable co-ordination.
Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
A plan:PhilW wrote:I agree with Derek, but as I am unlikely to be able to attend, can be ignored. Would also require considerable co-ordination.
- The bottles are assembled in the home of one of the attendees that is within six miles of the venue.
- The bottles are decanted fully sighted by the home-owner and DRT.
- DRT takes each shipper pair to the kitchen where the {wondering what all the fuss is about} spouse of the home-owner awaits.
- The home-owner's spouse wraps the bottles in foil and places them in a box.
- Repeat for each shipper.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
I agree that it would be nice to have. But I don't agree with my doing it in the Bunghole.
Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
My fault. Dates for two events need to be finalised, one of which is to be Wednesday 23rd April 2014.In the [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=68124#p68124]thread about a ’60-’63 double horizontal[/url], jdaw1 wrote:I’m sorry folks, but I completely forgot this when arranging the ’91-’92 with Sophia Bergqvist of Quinta de la Rosa.jdaw1 wrote:So Wednesday 23rd April is a possibility for ’60 versus ’63.TheBFT wrote:the b.f.t. 2014 on Thursday, 24th April
My fault. I’m sorry about forgetting the date of the ’60-’63.
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
Should I be number 12 with Ian as number 11?idj123 wrote:Late to put my hand up again! Can I be added to a reserve list if no immediate place available (as it looks)? I'll have a root around to see what I've got or else I'll secure in hope.
Ian
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
Names are being accepted in order of request: IDJ = 10; AHB = 11.AHB wrote:Should I be number 12 with Ian as number 11?
Ian: sorry I missed your post.
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
If this has already been arranged with Sophia we should stick with this date.
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
Over four months in advance, and only a little time after Sophia was asked, she might understand and forgive a careless clash. If Dirk was asked first, and he accepted, then his stands. If not, Sophia’s stands.djewesbury wrote:If this has already been arranged with Sophia we should stick with this date.
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
If this is replacement, rather than as well as the 60vs63, then I'm in also.
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
djewesbury wrote:I have emailed EDN to clarify.
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
As did everyone - me included - when volunteering to attend!jdaw1 wrote:I’m sorry folks, but I completely forgot this when arranging the ’91-’92 with Sophia Bergqvist of Quinta de la Rosa.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
Everyone except Tom.AHB wrote:As did everyone - me included - when volunteering to attend!
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
We need a new date for the 91/92 tasting. Julian, when would suit Sophia?djewesbury, [url=http://theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7652&p=68168#p68168]here[/url], wrote:Dirk Niepoort, in an email, wrote:it looks to me that 23 april is just fine for me !
what is the audouze method?? i would rather taste the 60 / 63 side by side. clearly.
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Re: 1991 & 1992, Wed 23 April 2014
On task.djewesbury wrote:We need a new date for the 91/92 tasting. Julian, when would suit Sophia?
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Re: 1991 & 1992, date TBD
Taylors and Vargellas are vv, meaning vice versa not vinhas velhas.
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