Last month, in Belfast, Daniel and I lunched with Sophia Bergqvist of Quinta de la Rosa. Amongst other things we discussed the 1991 and 1992 split declaration: which was better? The obvious suggestion was made, and Sophia agreed to bring de la Rosa from both years.
We have agreed a date of Wednesday 23rd April 2014, that being the evening before The Big Fortified Tasting.
Who is in, and who has which years, both full-declaration and single-quinta declaration?
Please add a +1 (Rachel B.) and note that I'm not certain what 91/92 we have. But I also expect that much will change in that regard between now and April. I will update.
Daniel J.
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jdaw1 wrote:Who is in, and who has which years, both full-declaration and single-quinta declaration?
Wait...you're ruling out Graham and Fonseca from attending...
Perhaps slightly careless phrasing by me. Who has which ’91s and ’92s, of either type? The intention was and is to include both Symington and Taylor-Fladgate brands.
djewesbury wrote:
Yes. Did they release anything at all in 91?
Both a colheita and a VP. Possibly LBV as well. Think it was also the first vintage that Redoma was produced.
I had the 91 and 92 Niepoort VPs on consecutive weeks recently - both nice albeit slightly unremarkable at this stage - 92 being the slightly fruitier / more accessible.
djewesbury wrote:both nice albeit slightly unremarkable at this stage - 92 being the slightly fruitier / more accessible.
I agree, but believe that the 91 is the superior wine.
Axel
Odd then that they don't list it on their website.. The only 91 shown is the Colheita.
They don't show several VP vintages (85, 91, 94, 97). I suspect because they are often problematic due to the well-known issues affecting Niepoort ports in that era (but that's pure speculation on my part!)
djewesbury wrote:both nice albeit slightly unremarkable at this stage - 92 being the slightly fruitier / more accessible.
I agree, but believe that the 91 is the superior wine.
Axel
Odd then that they don't list it on their website.. The only 91 shown is the Colheita.
They don't show several VP vintages (85, 91, 94, 97). I suspect because they are often problematic due to the well-known issues affecting Niepoort ports in that era (but that's pure speculation on my part!)
Wasn't aware that the 91 was afflicted in the same way as the 97. Oh dear.
Daniel J.
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Well with the 85 and 97 I am not happy to open a bottle due to VA and TCA, but 91 and 94 are on track, at least to my knowledge and the approx. 10 bottles I opened from both vintages.
DRT wrote:Are we only doing shipper pairs (e.g. Graham 1991 + Graham Malvedos 1992) or is it simply a list of 1991s v a list of 1992s?
My intention had been pairs and pseudo-pairs. If there is a clear consensus the other way I’ll give way to it, but failing that, comparing the years is best done with ‘pairs’.
Does the current list of people include all that it should?
DRT wrote:Are we only doing shipper pairs (e.g. Graham 1991 + Graham Malvedos 1992) or is it simply a list of 1991s v a list of 1992s?
My intention had been pairs and pseudo-pairs. If there is a clear consensus the other way I’ll give way to it, but failing that, comparing the years is best done with ‘pairs’.
OK. Let's stick with (pseudo-) pairs. I agree.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
Late to put my hand up again! Can I be added to a reserve list if no immediate place available (as it looks)? I'll have a root around to see what I've got or else I'll secure in hope.
) will see what else I have