Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by djewesbury » 23:16 Wed 18 Dec 2013

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jdaw1 wrote:Printing now.
Beginning to sulk now :cry:
Think of how much faster you'll be in 2014 with both of your bionic knees. We won't be able to keep up with you.
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by AHB » 23:28 Wed 18 Dec 2013

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jdaw1 wrote:Printing now.
Beginning to sulk now :cry:
No need to sulk. We'll keep you informed as to what we're drinking. Have you got Skype or FaceTime?
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by djewesbury » 23:30 Wed 18 Dec 2013

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DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Printing now.
Beginning to sulk now :cry:
No need to sulk. We'll keep you informed as to what we're drinking. Have you got Skype or FaceTime?
And of course we are living in an age of new :tpf: sample jars. Will someone bring a handful?

EDIT: I am bringing two 10cl bottles of different malt whiskies for those braving a cigar later on at the Saffron.
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by DRT » 23:30 Wed 18 Dec 2013

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DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Printing now.
Beginning to sulk now :cry:
No need to sulk. We'll keep you informed as to what we're drinking. Have you got Skype or FaceTime?
Both. And a bottle of something from 1970.
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by uncle tom » 00:19 Thu 19 Dec 2013

Are we doing this 100% fortified?

- or do we need some red juice for dinner?

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As a somewhat sober opener to this year's event, I will be presenting a small selection of bottles that I believe to be fake. These bottles were recently offered (as genuine) by one of the world's most prestigious auction houses.

To date, their response to this revelation has been very disappointing. I have urged them to act correctly, and to inform all purchasers of bottles from this source that there is a problem with the integrity of some bottles from one of their vendors, and that they should therefore desist from further distribution until enquiries are completed.

As of this moment, I have no evidence that they have complied with my request, or have any agenda to do so

I would therefore ask all of you to visually examine these bottles and post a personal opinion of their integrity on both TPF and FTLOP.

I will do likewise. The auctioneer has had fair warning of my intentions.
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill

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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by djewesbury » 00:23 Thu 19 Dec 2013

This sounds extremely interesting Tom. And it chimes with the thread I was re-reading earlier about the low gains to be made faking VP. I'm intrigued.
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by jdaw1 » 00:35 Thu 19 Dec 2013

Decanter labels made.

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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by jdaw1 » 00:36 Thu 19 Dec 2013

uncle tom wrote:Are we doing this 100% fortified?
My #2 is a Sauternes, gifted by my brother.

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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by jdaw1 » 00:39 Thu 19 Dec 2013

uncle tom wrote:As a somewhat sober opener to this year's event, I will be presenting a small selection of bottles that I believe to be fake. These bottles were recently offered (as genuine) by one of the world's most prestigious auction houses.

To date, their response to this revelation has been very disappointing. I have urged them to act correctly, and to inform all purchasers of bottles from this source that there is a problem with the integrity of some bottles from one of their vendors, and that they should therefore desist from further distribution until enquiries are completed.

As of this moment, I have no evidence that they have complied with my request, or have any agenda to do so

I would therefore ask all of you to visually examine these bottles and post a personal opinion of their integrity on both TPF and FTLOP.

I will do likewise. The auctioneer has had fair warning of my intentions.
Send the auctioneer an email containing this link: www.ThePortForum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6804&start=79.


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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by AHB » 06:25 Thu 19 Dec 2013

Is anyone visiting Seckfords before the Bell and able to collect a bottle of Rioja for me please?
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by Deleted_User_1 » 09:53 Thu 19 Dec 2013

It appears I am in..woohoo...confirming that I will be adopting from Tom as it is late notice...and...if anyone needs a lift from Stansted or The Saffron Hotel then please let me know.

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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by djewesbury » 10:23 Thu 19 Dec 2013

Cookie wrote:It appears I am in..woohoo...confirming that I will be adopting from Tom as it is late notice...and...if anyone needs a lift from Stansted or The Saffron Hotel then please let me know.
Hi Cookie, good to hear you'll be there.. I'm flying to Stansted this afternoon and will be getting a train to Audley End arriving shortly before 4.. Are you going to be around? I'll go and check in at the hotel and go back to the Bell then..
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by PhilW » 13:46 Thu 19 Dec 2013

djewesbury wrote:
Cookie wrote:It appears I am in..woohoo...confirming that I will be adopting from Tom as it is late notice...and...if anyone needs a lift from Stansted or The Saffron Hotel then please let me know.
Hi Cookie, good to hear you'll be there.. I'm flying to Stansted this afternoon and will be getting a train to Audley End arriving shortly before 4.. Are you going to be around? I'll go and check in at the hotel and go back to the Bell then..
I'll be arriving at Audley end at 16:23, and making my way to the Saffron (bus or taxi depending on availability). If it fitted with your timing and with Daniel, might we be able to share a lift at around 17:15 from the Saffron to the Bell (in which case I won't book a taxi in advance for that time)?

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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by djewesbury » 13:50 Thu 19 Dec 2013

PhilW wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
Cookie wrote:It appears I am in..woohoo...confirming that I will be adopting from Tom as it is late notice...and...if anyone needs a lift from Stansted or The Saffron Hotel then please let me know.
Hi Cookie, good to hear you'll be there.. I'm flying to Stansted this afternoon and will be getting a train to Audley End arriving shortly before 4.. Are you going to be around? I'll go and check in at the hotel and go back to the Bell then..
I'll be arriving at Audley end at 16:23, and making my way to the Saffron (bus or taxi depending on availability). If it fitted with your timing and with Daniel, might we be able to share a lift at around 17:15 from the Saffron to the Bell (in which case I won't book a taxi in advance for that time)?
Sounds good to me!
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by djewesbury » 14:53 Thu 19 Dec 2013

No flight delays. Weather clear after snow earlier on and a fierce storm last night. See you all soon.
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by RAYC » 11:04 Sun 22 Dec 2013

In terms of comments on names on the review thread (link):

The Ramos Pinto 27 was more than just "late bottled" - it is a fully registered "LBV" in the modern sense (registered at some point in the 80s i think i recall reading somewhere).

The Graham 1982 is marketed as a "Single Harvest Tawny" - arguably we should respect the wishes of the winemaker on that

Whitwhams has an "H" and i think should be styled the "1880 Millennium Port". I would not be offended by the addition of an apostrophe, though there is none on the label!
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Post by jdaw1 » 11:11 Sun 22 Dec 2013

RAYC wrote:The Ramos Pinto 27 was more than just "late bottled" - it is a fully registered "LBV" in the modern sense (registered at some point in the 80s i think i recall reading somewhere).

The Graham 1982 is marketed as a "Single Harvest Tawny" - arguably we should respect the wishes of the winemaker on that

Whitwhams has an "H" and i think should be styled the "1880 Millennium Port". I would not be offended by the addition of an apostrophe, though there is none on the label!
Thank you. Done.

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