ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
The American Crossword Puzzle Tournament is a week earlier next year, so I thought we should get the planning started for the annual ACPT Port Tasting. Hopefully the one week change won't cause us any scheduling problems.
My wife and I will probably arrive in NYC on Friday, 3/8. We could theoretically hold the tasting that evening, but last year it seemed that Saturday evening was more convenient for the locals. So this year we'll start the planning with Saturday, March 9th, and see what happens. I believe that Sandy and Ruth plan to attend again this year.
Past themes have included Taylor, Dow, Sandeman, and 20 Year Old Tawnies.
I'd love to do a Graham's vertical, so will toss that out as a first suggestion. Any other ideas?
(this theme subsequently discarded in favor of "Baga-esque")
Chosen theme: "Baga-esque"
Group A (abnormally dark): FG76, GC77, SW77, D80, GC80, KL70? (search in progress)
Group B (normal color range): D85, F85, G85, T85, GM86, W85
Guest List (last updated 2/26/2013):
1. Glenn E. (1980 Dow)
2. g-man (1976 Fonseca Guimaraens)
3. Chris Doty (1986 Graham's Malvedos)
4. Sandy (jefe7000) (1977 Gould Campbell, 1977 Smith Woodhouse)
5. Ruth (Sandy +1, see above)
6. Lamont Huxley (1985 Taylor Fladgate)
7. John M. (1980 Gould Campbell)
8. differentdave (adopting from SushiNorth)
9. ARS (1985 Dow, 1985 Graham)
10. SushiNorth (1985 Fonseca, 1985 Warre)
11. Fred (ARS +1, adopting from ARS)
My wife and I will probably arrive in NYC on Friday, 3/8. We could theoretically hold the tasting that evening, but last year it seemed that Saturday evening was more convenient for the locals. So this year we'll start the planning with Saturday, March 9th, and see what happens. I believe that Sandy and Ruth plan to attend again this year.
Past themes have included Taylor, Dow, Sandeman, and 20 Year Old Tawnies.
I'd love to do a Graham's vertical, so will toss that out as a first suggestion. Any other ideas?
(this theme subsequently discarded in favor of "Baga-esque")
Chosen theme: "Baga-esque"
Group A (abnormally dark): FG76, GC77, SW77, D80, GC80, KL70? (search in progress)
Group B (normal color range): D85, F85, G85, T85, GM86, W85
Guest List (last updated 2/26/2013):
1. Glenn E. (1980 Dow)
2. g-man (1976 Fonseca Guimaraens)
3. Chris Doty (1986 Graham's Malvedos)
4. Sandy (jefe7000) (1977 Gould Campbell, 1977 Smith Woodhouse)
5. Ruth (Sandy +1, see above)
6. Lamont Huxley (1985 Taylor Fladgate)
7. John M. (1980 Gould Campbell)
8. differentdave (adopting from SushiNorth)
9. ARS (1985 Dow, 1985 Graham)
10. SushiNorth (1985 Fonseca, 1985 Warre)
11. Fred (ARS +1, adopting from ARS)
Last edited by Glenn E. on 00:37 Wed 27 Feb 2013, edited 23 times in total.
Glenn Elliott
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
I'm surprisingly very light on Grahams, the only vintage I have is the 85 and a 79 malvedos in magnum.
I do have a buttload of warres lbvs/vps/sqvp
i think i have 74, 76, 77, 80, 81-86
I do have a buttload of warres lbvs/vps/sqvp
i think i have 74, 76, 77, 80, 81-86
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
March is far for me to look into the future, but it sounds fun and I have the 70, 77, 80, 85 and 94 on hand (there may be a cheeky 83 lying about somewhere too, but it's camoflaged)
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
Also have a bunch of ready warre's I'm looking to crack open (58, 66, 70, etc)
Whatever pleases
Whatever pleases
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
we can continue the slow trending ny habit of tasting old cockburns
i have the 50 and 55.
i have the 50 and 55.
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
I'd be up for Cockburns. I'm not terribly fond of Warre's Ports... and since I'm also not terribly fond of Dow or Sandeman I'd like to avoid making it 3 out of 4 for these tastings.
On the other hand, I have no Cockburns available. I'd have to purchase or adopt.
Grahams I have spare bottles of '66, '77, '83, '85, '91, '94 in bottles and '85, '94, '03 in magnum. Realistically, the magnums are all still too young.
On the other hand, I have no Cockburns available. I'd have to purchase or adopt.
Grahams I have spare bottles of '66, '77, '83, '85, '91, '94 in bottles and '85, '94, '03 in magnum. Realistically, the magnums are all still too young.
Glenn Elliott
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
Or we could do a horizontal of some older year, or a "decade survey" of assorted bottles... 50s or 60s would be good. I'd again probably have to purchase, but that's fine with me. This need not be a super formal tasting with a hard theme. I mostly just want to get together with the NY crowd again and drink some Port!
Glenn Elliott
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
would sandy n co be joining us as it changes the reservation dynamicsGlenn E. wrote:Or we could do a horizontal of some older year, or a "decade survey" of assorted bottles... 50s or 60s would be good. I'd again probably have to purchase, but that's fine with me. This need not be a super formal tasting with a hard theme. I mostly just want to get together with the NY crowd again and drink some Port!
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
g-man wrote:would sandy n co be joining us as it changes the reservation dynamicsGlenn E. wrote:Or we could do a horizontal of some older year, or a "decade survey" of assorted bottles... 50s or 60s would be good. I'd again probably have to purchase, but that's fine with me. This need not be a super formal tasting with a hard theme. I mostly just want to get together with the NY crowd again and drink some Port!
I haven't confirmed that yet, but Sandy mentioned it again at the last tasting so I'm pretty sure they intend to attend.Glenn E. wrote:I believe that Sandy and Ruth plan to attend again this year.
Glenn Elliott
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
shall we try and track down some old niepoorts?
i've been curious
i only have recent vintages like the 94/97/2000
i've been curious
i only have recent vintages like the 94/97/2000
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
Good luck!g-man wrote:shall we try and track down some old niepoorts?
Rob C.
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
As Glenn said above, we're planning to attend again. As to theme, we'll go along with whatever you decide - and either buy, adopt, or bring from our cellar the appropriate Ports.
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
I'd definitely be in again this year if there's room.
Hey g-man, any chance you still have my notes from last year's event floating around?
Hey g-man, any chance you still have my notes from last year's event floating around?
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
We sometimes have that problem in the UK as well. Good luck getting TN sheets a year later.Lamont Huxley wrote:Hey g-man, any chance you still have my notes from last year's event floating around?
Late in the next evening, photograph them. Yours and others’.
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
i believe I do acutallyLamont Huxley wrote:I'd definitely be in again this year if there's room.
Hey g-man, any chance you still have my notes from last year's event floating around?
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Having gone through that experience already this year, I'll have to vote no. Old Niepoorts are both extremely rare in the U.S. and also extremely expensive. My two bottles for the FTLOP tasting with Dirk came to $1000 and were both tawnies as I couldn't find any rubies under $700 each.g-man wrote:shall we try and track down some old niepoorts?
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Glenn Elliott
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
As DRT posted here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6293&start=25#p54036
Perhaps a tasting of F76, SW77 & D80 v D85, F85 & T85 would demonstrate the point?
I happen to have all in my cellar except the d80 I think i have a T85 but would need to check too.
though someone would need to point out to me what braga-esque is
Perhaps a tasting of F76, SW77 & D80 v D85, F85 & T85 would demonstrate the point?
I happen to have all in my cellar except the d80 I think i have a T85 but would need to check too.
though someone would need to point out to me what braga-esque is
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
Awesome, I'd love to have them. I suppose if all works out I could just pick them up from you at the event. Better late than neverg-man wrote:i believe I do acutallyLamont Huxley wrote:I'd definitely be in again this year if there's room.
Hey g-man, any chance you still have my notes from last year's event floating around?
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
Maybe a horizontal? 70 or 77 perhaps? Or maybe an SQVP theme?
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
Those 6 sound like a great tasting to me. If you're willing to supply the bottles that will certainly make it easier for those of us coming from out of state, but if not we can almost certainly find those and order them ahead of time. We would, of course, reimburse you for the bottles either via exchange or cash. I have both a spare D80 and a spare T85 if needed.g-man wrote:As DRT posted here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6293&start=25#p54036
Perhaps a tasting of F76, SW77 & D80 v D85, F85 & T85 would demonstrate the point?
I happen to have all in my cellar except the d80 I think i have a T85 but would need to check too.
though someone would need to point out to me what braga-esque is
I'm sure we could come up with additional bottles should the need arise for more than 6. If I understand the intent correctly, then I believe that GC77 and F80 would be suitable examples for the two sides of the coin.
I, too, need to have braga-esque explained to me.
Glenn Elliott
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
My guess:Glenn E. wrote:I, too, need to have braga-esque explained to me.
braga-esque means something akin to a particular type of science fiction storyline (bizarre, requiring the suspension of belief, and where things are not all that they seem)!
Rob C.
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
So the theme being a VP that underperforms vs a SQVP that over performs?
so in this case we do the F 76 and F 80?
ar ethere other examples where the seemingly underrated SQVP outperforms it's more prominent underperforming brethren?
so in this case we do the F 76 and F 80?
ar ethere other examples where the seemingly underrated SQVP outperforms it's more prominent underperforming brethren?
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
Croft 1975 versus Croft Roeda 1983?
Most 1975 vintages versus any non-’75 SQVP?
Most 1975 vintages versus any non-’75 SQVP?
Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
how about the F75??jdaw1 wrote:Croft 1975 versus Croft Roeda 1983?
Most 1975 vintages versus any non-’75 SQVP?
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Re: ACPT Port tasting, NYC, March 9, 2013
That doesn't entirely fit Derek's list, as he puts forth only a single SQVP and then a mix a "overperforming" and "underperforming" Vintage Ports. Though frankly, it's difficult to call any of the Ports on his list truely underperforming. The T85 comes closest, I guess, but I would call that one merely "average" and not poor.g-man wrote:So the theme being a VP that underperforms vs a SQVP that over performs?
Also, I do not have a spare D80 like I thought. I still haven't managed to enter my tasting notes from the "Roy's Top 12" tasting last March and so my cellar records aren't completely up-to-date.
Glenn Elliott