Tue 24 November 2020 - A Tasting with Sophia Bergqvist

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Post by forest26 » 18:56 Tue 24 Nov 2020

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Post by jdaw1 » 19:13 Tue 24 Nov 2020

jdaw1 wrote:
20:23 Sat 14 Nov 2020
nac wrote:
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AHB, NAC, JDAW, GEAG, SCD, PW will all have Tawny, 1988VP, 1994VP, 2015VP(Waitrose).
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ParcelForce have failed: SMS said 09:15 to 10:15; at 15:03 delivery was attempted to the wrong address.

A modest bottle from a larger company will fail to substitute.

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Post by nac » 19:18 Tue 24 Nov 2020

jdaw1 wrote:
19:13 Tue 24 Nov 2020
jdaw1 wrote:
20:23 Sat 14 Nov 2020
nac wrote:
08:18 Thu 12 Nov 2020
AHB, NAC, JDAW, GEAG, SCD, PW will all have Tawny, 1988VP, 1994VP, 2015VP(Waitrose).
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ParcelForce have failed: SMS said 09:15 to 10:15; at 15:03 delivery was attempted to the wrong address.

A modest bottle from a larger company will fail to substitute.
Apologies for the failure of my logistics supplier. I shall attempt to get a refund of the carriage charge.

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Post by uncle tom » 19:41 Tue 24 Nov 2020

Rebello '66 decanted 6.30
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill

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Post by Axel P » 20:01 Tue 24 Nov 2020

I received my La Rosa parcel this morning...
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Post by Axel P » 22:01 Tue 24 Nov 2020

Thank you Alex for organising.

Great to see you all again. Miss you. Stay safe.

Much looking forward to our next glas together.
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Post by PhilW » 22:08 Tue 24 Nov 2020

Many thanks also to both Alex for organising, and for Neil for arranging and sharing some ports for this tasting - much appreciated, thank you both.

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Post by Andy Velebil » 22:45 Tue 24 Nov 2020

Wonderful seeing everyone. And thanks to Alex for organizing!

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Post by rich_n » 23:41 Tue 24 Nov 2020

Thanks Alex for organising, it was a lovely evening. Great to catch up with you all, hopefully we'll have another one in December if possible.

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Post by winesecretary » 00:23 Wed 25 Nov 2020

That was a great fun evening, with informative and amusing commentary from Sophia and the audience, and some delicious ports. It was lovely to see you all.

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Post by Justin K » 01:46 Wed 25 Nov 2020

Thanks Sophia and Alex, a great introduction to Quinta De La Rosa Wines and Port. Definitely looking out for them now. Enjoyed the night.

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Post by AHB » 21:43 Wed 25 Nov 2020

Out of interest, is there anyone in particular people would like to have join us for a tasting? No promises, but we can always ask.
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Post by jdaw1 » 22:52 Wed 25 Nov 2020

A day late, but nonetheless…

Rs88: dark red, 70% opaque. Thin nose, lacking fruit, with a hint of saccharine. Palate sour and acidic. Sweetness remains; no fruit. Long, but of nothing. Sorry, not liked.

Rs94: red, pink at edge, 70% opaque. Nose not strong, with red grape and sweetness. Plata starts soft, then a mite little Tayloresque grit. Red grape, dry but not very dry, and long with that same red grape. I think this style of Port used to be called “feminine”. I think the ParcelForce delay has left this one-decanted: it might have been more complex yesterday.

Ws15: dark dark red, 80% opaque. Palate very sticky, with blackcurrant and, behind, red grape. Despite the stickiness mid-weight, most of its strength being early and mid. This is lovely for drinking now.

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Post by idj123 » 23:04 Wed 25 Nov 2020

A big thank-you to Alex for organising and to Sophia, who is always engaging.Continuing to drink the 2017 tonight and it's softening out lovely. Will be going back to Waitrose to buy more...

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Post by winesecretary » 00:22 Thu 26 Nov 2020

@ Alex - Would be really nice to get Johnny Graham out to play. The 2000 Churchill was absolutely gobsmacking when I had it early this year.

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Post by JacobH » 12:17 Thu 26 Nov 2020

We really enjoyed this evening. Thank you very much to Alex for arranging it and for Sophia for taking part.

One of the few good things about 2020 has been the number of online events with people in the Port industry and think Sophia was more interesting than almost anyone else I have heard.

We tried the 2016 Tinto, 2016 DouROSA, 2015 Waitrose Blend VP and 2017 Vintage Ports.

I like the 2016 Tinto a lot which seems to me to be quite a serious wine that needs some more age. Although it is a similar blend, the DouROSA always seems to be a touch simple by comparison.

I really enjoyed both the 2015 and 2017 Vintage Ports, although I don’t think you could describe either of them as possessing traditional Vintage Port characteristics. Both have lovely noses (marzipan on the 2015 and elderflower on the 2017) but very little obvious tannin or acidity. They are also missing the classical “grapyness” that is often present on young Vintage Ports. It will be interesting to see if they have the long term staying power or not. But it also seems perfectly acceptable to drink them young, now.

Incidentally, when I asked Sophia about her views on the QdlR “house style” for Port, she said that she looked to making them on the drier side. Has anyone come across a wine maker who says they like making their Ports on the “sweeter side”? I don’t think her’s have a notable dry finish to them (as might be the case with, say, Dow, Noval or Churchill) and I am beginning to wonder whether there is an element of the champagne industry to this, where people are reluctant to admit they like the sweetness in the wine and think saying that it is drier makes it sound more sophisticated?
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Post by JacobH » 12:38 Thu 26 Nov 2020

AHB wrote:
21:43 Wed 25 Nov 2020
Out of interest, is there anyone in particular people would like to have join us for a tasting? No promises, but we can always ask.
Many years ago, I spoke to the lady who ran Quinta do Infantado (Paula Roseira, perhaps?) who I thought was really interesting: they were probably the first Quinta to go independent in the modern era; they’ve done a whole load of interesting experiments (like single-varietal Port, I think) and have quite a different approach to Port making. I’d love to have a proper chance to hear about their history. Does anyone know anyone there?

I’d also be interested to hear from someone who is responsible for a more tawny-centric house. Like the chaps who are running Quinta do Mourão but I don’t think I’ve met any of them.
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Post by nac » 01:00 Fri 27 Nov 2020

AHB wrote:
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Out of interest, is there anyone in particular people would like to have join us for a tasting? No promises, but we can always ask.
Echo George’s idea for Churchill.
What about Vale Donna Maria or Wine & Soul?

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Post by Axel P » 13:16 Fri 27 Nov 2020

JacobH wrote:
12:38 Thu 26 Nov 2020
I’d also be interested to hear from someone who is responsible for a more tawny-centric house. Like the chaps who are running Quinta do Mourão but I don’t think I’ve met any of them.
I am currently in line organising something with them. If successful, I will certainly let you know.

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Post by benread » 14:01 Fri 27 Nov 2020

winesecretary wrote:@ Alex - Would be really nice to get Johnny Graham out to play. The 2000 Churchill was absolutely gobsmacking when I had it early this year.
I thought the QdlR was quite similar in style to Churchill’s. Both are houses I have tried properly for the first time and both I have enjoyed a lot. I think dryer styles are my preference it seems!


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Post by JacobH » 15:10 Mon 30 Nov 2020

Axel P wrote:
13:16 Fri 27 Nov 2020
JacobH wrote:
12:38 Thu 26 Nov 2020
I’d also be interested to hear from someone who is responsible for a more tawny-centric house. Like the chaps who are running Quinta do Mourão but I don’t think I’ve met any of them.
I am currently in line organising something with them. If successful, I will certainly let you know.
That would be great! Fingers crossed...
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