1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

[winesecretary]

As prefigured, 2020 ought to feature an assessment of the 1980 vintage at forty. Since I proposed it...

We have tastings lined up for February, March, May, June, September, and October. I am most grateful to those who are arranging them. April, July and August tend to be light. But, there is nothing in November. Noting the historical preference for more serious tastings to avoid the first half of November, I propose Tuesday 24th November for this tasting.

Red Room at the Boot and Flogger has been booked for Tuesday 24th November. 1800 for 1830.

1. GEAG (NN) [Royal Oporto]
2. flash_uk (Gould Campbell)
3. CPR1 (Sandeman) [Niepoort]
4. Doggett (Dow)
5. forest26 (Barros) [Kopke, Fonseca]
6. idj123 (Graham)
7. jdaw1
8. nac (adopting Warre from idj123)
9. M.Charlton (Burmester)
10. HTWH (adopting Taylor from AHB)
11. DaveRL (Offley Boa Vista)
12. CMAG (Quarles Harris (subject to confirmation))
13. akzy (adopting Smith Woodhouse from DaveRL)
14. AHB (Croft Roeda)

Shippers and who has:

(i) Dow (Doggett, forest26, CMAG, AHB, DaveRL, GEAG)
(ii) Graham (idj123, GEAG, flash_uk, AHB, DaveRL)
(iii) Royal Oporto (GEAG)
(iv) Gould Campbell (flash_uk, forest26, AHB, DaveRL (idj123 mag))
(v) Croft Roeda (AHB, flash_uk, forest26)
(vi) Barros (forest26)
(vii) Burmester (M.Charlton, forest26)
(viii) Kopke (forest26)
(ix) Warre (idj123, CPR 1, forest26, AHB, DaveRL)
(x) Taylor (AHB, CPR 1, forest26)
(xi) Fonseca (forest26, idj123)
(xii) Niepoort (forest26, CPR 1)
(xiii) Smith Woodhouse (forest26, idj123, DaveRL)
(xiv) Sandeman (CPR 1)
(xv) Quarles Harris ((idj123 mag))
(xvi) Noval Nacional (GEAG)
(xvii) Offley Boa Vista (DaveRL)

Additional possibilities:

(i) Borges
(ii) Calem Foz
(iii) Ferreira
(iv) Quarles Harris (bottle)
(v) Ramos Pinto

Considered as possibilities and for reasons set out put to one side:

(i) BBR (as it is Warre)
(ii) Delaforce Corte (poorly reported)
(iii) Hutchison (poorly reported)
(iv) Real Vinicola (no data)
(v) Real Companhia Velha (no data)

[flash_uk]

Yes please. I have:
CrR
GC
G

Also considering getting some W and D.

[CPR 1]

Yes please

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[Doggett]

Yes please... I have a Dow to offer

[forest26]

Yes please

[idj123]

Yes please.

[jdaw1]

Yes please.

[jdaw1]

TC: did you mean to accept twice? If not, may I — or you — delete one of the duplicates?

[nac]

Yes please. Will have to check what I've got.

[forest26]

Yes - please delete the duplicate.

I have

Barros
Burmester
Croft Roeda
Kopke
Warre
Dow
Taylor
Fonseca
Niepoort
SW
GC

Let me know what you need (soonish) and I will put them aside.

[M.Charlton]

Yes please.

[hadge]

yes please

[DaveRL]

Yes please

[Christopher]

Yes please

[CPR 1]

I can offer Sandeman, Niepoort, Taylor, Warre and BBR (Warre)

[winesecretary]

@forest26 - That is a remarkably extensive list of 1980s. You can, I think, reasonably assume that where someone else has the port then you won't be called upon to provide it for adoption. That still might, as at instant date, leave you supplying Barros, Burmester, Kopke, Fonseca, and Smith Woodhouse but the likelihood is we will chip that list down over the next nine months. Thank you!

[akzy]

Yes please.

[AHB]

Yes please. I’ll check what I have later.

[winesecretary]

And we're full. Given the length of time before the event, we can list a number of reserves.

[nac]

Yes please. Will have to check what I've got.

Checked and have nothing - pretty sure there was in the past...

Plans afoot for D & W acquisition but suspect that won't help much, so will probably need to adopt.

[idj123]

I have F, G, W, SW, GC (mag) and QH (mag).

[Christopher]

I have Dow and can try and purchase something missing if needed

[winesecretary]

@CMAG - thank you. If you are looking in the market, please could you look to pick up one of Borges, Calem Foz, Ferreira, Offley Boa Vista, Quarles Harris or Ramos Pinto?

[We are currently missing from the list the following wines of which I am aware:

1. Borges
2. Calem Foz
3. Delaforce Corte
4. Ferreira
5. Hutcheson
6. Offley Boa Vista
7. Quarles Harris (in bottle; we have been offered a magnum which is extremely generous but which I would prefer to enable the owner to save opening for another occasion)
8. Ramos Pinto
9. Real Vinicola
10. Real Companhia Velha

However we already have 16 16 bottles (plus the magnum, were we to accept it). I consider 18 ideal and 21 an absolute limit. So, pruning ongoing.

(a) I will check with CPR 1 whether the Berry's Own selection is the same blend as the Warre VP and if so I suggest we drop it.
(b) I will check in my own cellar whether the Royal Oporto is a Colheita or not (my cellar diary is unclear) and if it is a Colheita I will drop it. [Checked: The Royal Oporto is a full VP]
(c) The Delaforce Corte and Hutcheson have poor reputations and I propose we ignore them.
(d) Real Vinicola & Real Companhia Velha ports from this vintage I have no data on.]

[CPR 1]

I understand BBR is Warre (same blend) capsule and cork say Warre, but BBR label.

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[winesecretary]

Charles, that's prompt, helpful and conclusive. Thank you. I will remove that one from the list. It is thus looking very likely you will be asked to provide the Sandeman.