Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

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Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by uncle tom » 18:40 Thu 14 Nov 2019

This post to hold arrangements as and when agreed.

When: 6½pm, Tuesday 2nd June 2020.

Where: The Red Room in The Boot & FloggerGoogleStreetMap.co.uk///cafe.humid.palaceBing.

Theme: 1960 horizontal, sighted.

Who:
  1. Johnny Symington;
  2. Christian Seely (provisional);
  3. Dirk Niepoort;
  4. THRA;
  5. JDAW;
  6. DRT;
  7. AHB;
  8. CMAG;
  9. PW;
  10. MC;
  11. MPM;
  12. SCD;
  13. CPR;
  14. IDJ.
Reserves:
  • GEAG;
  • DRL (who has Croft, Noval, and Offley);
  • TC;
  • WPS;
  • JMK (who has Cálem, Cockburn, Dow, Taylor, and Warre).
Bottles of 1960 Vintage Port available:
  1. Butler Nephew (AHB; THRA);
  2. Cálem (THRA);
  3. Cockburn (DRT; THRA);
  4. Croft (THRA; CPR; IDJ);
  5. Delaforce (THRA);
  6. Dow (DRT; THRA; CPR; IDJ);
  7. Ferreira (AHB; THRA);
  8. Fonseca (JDAW; THRA; CPR);
  9. Gonzalez Byass (THRA);
  10. Graham (THRA);
  11. Martinez (THRA; IDJ);
  12. Messias (THRA);
  13. Niepoort (THRA);
  14. Noval (AHB; CPR; IDJ; THRA; DRT, for whom ‘believed’);
  15. Offley Boa Vista (THRA);
  16. Real Companhia Velha (THRA);
  17. Rebello Valente (THRA; IDJ);
  18. de la Rosa (AHB);
  19. Sandeman (DRT; THRA; SCD);
  20. Smith Woodhouse (THRA);
  21. Sibio (AHB; THRA);
  22. Taylor (THRA; AHB, for whom ‘believed’).
  23. Warre (THRA; CPR);
(Obvious missing shippers: Burmester; Feuerheerd; Gould Campbell; Kopke; Krohn; Mackenzie; Morgan; Quarles Harris; Ramos Pinto; Tuke Holdsworth.)


◊ Link to food order will go here. ◊

◊ Link to draft of placemats will go here and here. ◊

This post originally by jdaw1; its author subsequently changed to uncle tom.

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Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by jdaw1 » 18:40 Thu 14 Nov 2019

Tom’s vintage year is 1960. Indeed, some might recall that we marked his fiftieth with a 1960 horizontal. And a decade later he has requested the same theme again.

Tuesday 2nd June 2020 is the date for this horizontal, set after consultation with Tom and industry guests.

The organiser of this tasting is THRA himself, for whom JDAW will sometimes act as secretary. JDAW emphasises that he is not the organiser.

Port Vintages has definite full declarations of 1960 by all of the thirty shippers with a chapter: B, BN, Cá, Ck, Cr, Df, D, Fr, Fd, F, GB, GC, G, K, Kr, Mk, Mz, Mg, Ni, N, O, QH, RP, RV, RO, S, SW, T, TH, W; and of course there were also declarations by some smaller producers.

Some seats are pre-booked.

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Post by DRT » 18:42 Thu 14 Nov 2019

Yes please.

I have Cockburn, Dow, Sandeman and (believed (Noval)
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Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by AHB » 18:45 Thu 14 Nov 2019

I'm in, and CMAG has said he is too.

I have a choice of Butler Nephew, de la Rosa, Ferreira, (known to be) Noval, Sibio and (believed to be) Taylor. Happy to contribute one or two from that list.
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Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by Christopher » 18:53 Thu 14 Nov 2019

Yes please

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Post by M.Charlton » 19:07 Thu 14 Nov 2019

Yes please.

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by PhilW » 19:44 Thu 14 Nov 2019

I'm in.

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Re: Tom’s birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by uncle tom » 19:44 Thu 14 Nov 2019

I have:

Butler Nephew
Calem
Cockburn
Croft
Delaforce
Dow
Ferreira
Fonseca
Gonzalez Byass
Graham
Martinez
Messias
Niepoort
Offley Boa Vista
Real Companhia Velha
Rebello Valente
Sandeman
Sibio
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre

- How many bottles do we want on the table.?
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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by flash_uk » 20:10 Thu 14 Nov 2019

Yes please. Might be out of 1960, will check. Plenty of time to fix that though :D

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by Doggett » 20:34 Thu 14 Nov 2019

Yes please... I have a Sandeman ready for this one.

Edit: if DRT is not already sharing his... in which case I would hope to adopt please.

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by CPR 1 » 21:18 Thu 14 Nov 2019

Yes please. I can offer

Dow, Warre, Fonseca, Noval or Croft
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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by idj123 » 21:35 Thu 14 Nov 2019

And me please!

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by jdaw1 » 21:44 Thu 14 Nov 2019

At which this tasting is full. Anybody else to go on a waitlist.

Those who haven’t, please post what you have. (Yes, I know.)

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Re: Tom’s birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by jdaw1 » 23:16 Thu 14 Nov 2019

uncle tom wrote:
19:44 Thu 14 Nov 2019
How many bottles do we want on the table.?
This is a serious question worthy of being answered.

There will be fourteen of us, likely all full-capacity drinkers, and 14 × 1¼ = 17½. Table space limits us to 1×A3 + 1×A4, so to about 15 + 6 = 21 glasses. Would it be wrong to have between 18 and 20?

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by winesecretary » 23:28 Thu 14 Nov 2019

Tom and I share a birthday (if not a birth date). Please may I go on the reserve list? I have at the moment only Warre, but since I am in acquisition phase still, there will be others by then.

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by DaveRL » 00:05 Fri 15 Nov 2019

Reserve list please. I'll check what I have.

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by DaveRL » 00:07 Fri 15 Nov 2019

Spread sheet indicates Croft, Noval and Offley.

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Post by forest26 » 07:51 Fri 15 Nov 2019

Yes please - wow places went quick

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by WS1 » 08:02 Fri 15 Nov 2019

Hi,

Despite unlikely to succeed can you please put me on the waiting list as well.

Thanks
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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by uncle tom » 10:41 Fri 15 Nov 2019

There will be fourteen of us, likely all full-capacity drinkers, and 14 × 1¼ = 17½. Table space limits us to 1×A3 + 1×A4, so to about 15 + 6 = 21 glasses. Would it be wrong to have between 18 and 20?
So which shippers shall we drop from my list?

Losing Messias, RCV and Sibio would leave 18
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by jdaw1 » 11:30 Fri 15 Nov 2019

uncle tom wrote:
10:41 Fri 15 Nov 2019
There will be fourteen of us, likely all full-capacity drinkers, and 14 × 1¼ = 17½. Table space limits us to 1×A3 + 1×A4, so to about 15 + 6 = 21 glasses. Would it be wrong to have between 18 and 20?
So which shippers shall we drop from my list?

Losing Messias, RCV and Sibio would leave 18
Would you keep others’ Noval and de la Rosa?

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Post by CPR 1 » 13:00 Fri 15 Nov 2019

jdaw1 wrote:
11:30 Fri 15 Nov 2019
uncle tom wrote:
10:41 Fri 15 Nov 2019
There will be fourteen of us, likely all full-capacity drinkers, and 14 × 1¼ = 17½. Table space limits us to 1×A3 + 1×A4, so to about 15 + 6 = 21 glasses. Would it be wrong to have between 18 and 20?
So which shippers shall we drop from my list?

Losing Messias, RCV and Sibio would leave 18
Would you keep others’ Noval and de la Rosa?
I would be keen to keep Noval, de la Rosa is good thus if we have it great, but those at the RV tasting next week will also get to try it there

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Post by idj123 » 21:17 Fri 15 Nov 2019

Personally, given that it's 60 @ 60 @ 60 and that there are bound to be one or two faulty bottles, I think we should go for the maximum number of bottles that glasses space affords ie 21. BTW, where's the NN (I see it was present last time around)?

I have Cr, N, RV, D and Mz (I believe).

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by flash_uk » 21:33 Fri 15 Nov 2019

idj123 wrote:
21:17 Fri 15 Nov 2019
it's 60 @ 60 @ 60
It took me a while...

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Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Post by jdaw1 » 23:10 Fri 15 Nov 2019

idj123 wrote:
21:17 Fri 15 Nov 2019
where's the NN (I see it was present last time around)?
But:
jdaw1 wrote:
19:00 Tue 25 May 2010
NN60: very imperfect.
Chris Doty wrote:
12:37 Mon 07 Jun 2010
VERY dissapointing.
AHB wrote:
10:13 Sun 27 Jun 2010
the regular Noval 1960 was better than this bottle
DRT wrote:
17:13 Thu 14 Oct 2010
Thinner than the regular Noval.
So likely not worth the large cost.

Of course, if you wish to donate a NN60, then we’d accept.

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