5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

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5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by uncle tom » 13:26 Fri 10 Feb 2017

Nothing like planning ahead...

I plan to launch a large format dinner each year on bonfire night when I finally retire from the fireworks business. The first is pencilled in for 2024, but might come sooner..

The idea is that on odd numbered years, two magnums will be on the table with a combined age of at least 100 years, that on World Cup years a double magnum will be decanted, on alternate Olympic years an Imperial will be drunk, and that the remaining Olympic years will alternate between a Salmanazar (9L) and Nebuchadnezzar (15L)

I now have the little matter of accumulating sufficient bottles..

I need more magnums, have enough double mags (but a poor spread of ages), enough (6) Imperials and enough (3) Nebuchadnezzars, but only two Salmanazars.

I have therefore persuaded Oscar to make a 9L bottling of his next vintage, and he has decided to fill just ten.

I shall be taking one, which will be decanted on the above-mentioned date - if anyone else is interested in buying one, please let either me or Oscar know..
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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by jdaw1 » 21:56 Fri 10 Feb 2017

In the essay on Big Bottles of Port: Ending The Prohibition
JDAW wrote:However a comment of Dominic Symington should give some pause: “If a very large bottle is lying horizontally, there is excessive constant pressure on the cork, and for a long time. Additionally the greater the diameter of the neck the larger the cork has to be, compromising its ability to compress and create a decent seal. There is also the problem of capillary action. Which is why SFE has recently decided no longer to bottle larger than an imperial.” I wondered whether bottles could be stored at 45°, but Dominic observed that it might still be “too much of a risk, particularly in transit when the wine is sloshing around inside the bottle”.
I’d love to accept, but expect to be ‘unavailable’ on that date.

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Post by uncle tom » 06:18 Sat 11 Feb 2017

I’d love to accept, but expect to be ‘unavailable’ on that date.
You'll only be 96 - I'll be a sprightly 104..
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill

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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by Andy Velebil » 19:23 Sun 12 Feb 2017

jdaw1 wrote:
21:56 Fri 10 Feb 2017
In the essay on Big Bottles of Port: Ending The Prohibition
JDAW wrote:However a comment of Dominic Symington should give some pause: “If a very large bottle is lying horizontally, there is excessive constant pressure on the cork, and for a long time. Additionally the greater the diameter of the neck the larger the cork has to be, compromising its ability to compress and create a decent seal. There is also the problem of capillary action. Which is why SFE has recently decided no longer to bottle larger than an imperial.” I wondered whether bottles could be stored at 45°, but Dominic observed that it might still be “too much of a risk, particularly in transit when the wine is sloshing around inside the bottle”.
I’d love to accept, but expect to be ‘unavailable’ on that date.
perhaps if you store it with the neck tilted upward so some liquid stays in contact with the cork but doesn't put undue pressure on it?

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Post by jdaw1 » 19:39 Sun 12 Feb 2017

Andy Velebil wrote:
19:23 Sun 12 Feb 2017
perhaps if you store it with the neck tilted upward so some liquid stays in contact with the cork but doesn't put undue pressure on it?
Hence, in the essay on Big Bottles of Port: Ending The Prohibition
JDAW wrote:I wondered whether bottles could be stored at 45°, but Dominic observed that it might still be “too much of a risk, particularly in transit when the wine is sloshing around inside the bottle”.

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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by gerwin.degraaf » 22:27 Sun 12 Feb 2017

uncle tom wrote:
06:18 Sat 11 Feb 2017
I’d love to accept, but expect to be ‘unavailable’ on that date.
You'll only be 96 - I'll be a sprightly 104..
Would love to attend, should I be allowed and/or invited. I'll be only 90 (almost 91 at that date :lol: )

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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by jdaw1 » 23:19 Mon 13 Feb 2017

uncle tom wrote:
13:26 Fri 10 Feb 2017
on odd numbered years, two magnums will be on the table with a combined age of at least 100 years, that on World Cup years a double magnum will be decanted, on alternate Olympic years an Imperial will be drunk, and that the remaining Olympic years will alternate between a Salmanazar (9L) and Nebuchadnezzar (15L)
So:
One in 2: two magnums (2×1½L = 3L), average age ≥50 years;
One in 4: double magnum (3L);
One in 8: Imperial (6L);
One in 16: Salmanazar (9L);
One in 16: Nebuchadnezzar (15L).

The parties will not all be the same size.

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Post by uncle tom » 08:47 Tue 14 Feb 2017

The parties will not all be the same size.
Correct - the Olympic year parties will be bigger events.
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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by Doggett » 14:34 Tue 14 Feb 2017

This seems like a fabulous idea, and I would like to put my name forward as available for any or all of the November 5th dates that are appropriate. I love Oscar's port and these are bound to be lovely tastings... particularly if it is the 2015 release that I have high hopes for being my wedding anniversary vintage. And also because sadly I do not have the funds at this time to get my own 'Sally'. What a marvellous way to spend bonfires evening. If there are aver spaces available Tom... let me know!

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Post by forest26 » 22:11 Thu 16 Feb 2017

If I reserve a space can I pass it (and appropriate quantity of port) to one of my children?

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Post by Andy Velebil » 03:10 Fri 17 Feb 2017

RSVP me....I'll be there if I'm still sucking my share of earths air.

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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by DRT » 22:50 Fri 17 Feb 2017

Is this the plan...

2024 - Imperial (Olympics)
2025 - two mags (odd year)
2026 - double mag (Work Cup)
2027 - two mags (odd year)
2028 - Salmanazar (Olympics)
2029 - two mags (odd year)
2030 - double mag (Work Cup)
2031 - two mags (odd year)
2032 - Imperial (Olympics)
2033 - two mags (odd year)
2034 - double mag (Work Cup)
2035 - two mags (odd year)
2036 - Nebuchadnezzar (Olympics)

If so I am available :-)
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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by uncle tom » 07:04 Sat 18 Feb 2017

2024 - Imperial (Olympics)
2025 - two mags (odd year)
2026 - double mag (Work Cup)
2027 - two mags (odd year)
2028 - Salmanazar (Olympics)
2029 - two mags (odd year)
2030 - double mag (Work Cup)
2031 - two mags (odd year)
2032 - Imperial (Olympics)
2033 - two mags (odd year)
2034 - double mag (Work Cup)
2035 - two mags (odd year)
2036 - Nebuchadnezzar (Olympics)
I'm planning to start large, so the Olympic years will be:

2024 - V94 Nebuchadnezzar
2028 - F80 Imperial
2032 - V97 Salmanazar
2036 - F85 Imperial
2040 - W94 Nebuchadnezzar
2044 - W97 Imperial
2048 - V00 Salmanazar
2052 - V00 Imperial
2056 - V94 Nebuchadnezzar
2060 - V03 Imperial
2064 - Q15 Salmanazar
2068 - V09 Imperial

All subsequent events to have bottles that are 50-60 years old, so from the next declaration I shall be looking to get another Neb filled..
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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by DRT » 09:19 Sat 18 Feb 2017

I think you can put me down for 2024, but only as tentative for 2068.
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Post by DaveRL » 12:53 Sat 18 Feb 2017

Planning ahead on a grand scale. An excellent idea.

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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by Old Bridge » 17:23 Mon 20 Feb 2017

DRT wrote:
22:50 Fri 17 Feb 2017
Is this the plan...

2024 - Imperial (Olympics)
2025 - two mags (odd year)
2026 - double mag (Work Cup)
2027 - two mags (odd year)
2028 - Salmanazar (Olympics)
2029 - two mags (odd year)
2030 - double mag (Work Cup)
2031 - two mags (odd year)
2032 - Imperial (Olympics)
2033 - two mags (odd year)
2034 - double mag (Work Cup)
2035 - two mags (odd year)
2036 - Nebuchadnezzar (Olympics)

If so I am available :-)
Sorry, but what is (Work Cup)?

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Re: 5th November 2064 - a Quevedo Salmanazar..

Post by DRT » 19:33 Mon 20 Feb 2017

Old Bridge wrote:
17:23 Mon 20 Feb 2017
Sorry, but what is (Work Cup)?
Oops! :oops:
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