1994 Vintage Ports

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1994 Vintage Ports

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All sold or no longer for sale. Sorry to anybody not replied to been rather hectic with work!
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I will reply at greater length later, but, pro tem, have you read this.
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jdaw1 wrote:I will reply at greater length later, but, pro tem, have you read this.
I have indeed - photos shall be taken with much haste.


As I said we have a number of bottles and are only looking to sell a handful as opposed to all.
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Busterhighmen wrote:I visit today as I have recently been tasked with selling a few bottles of our 1994 collection. We have (off the
I'm looking for help with;
- Pricing (Google gives the retail prices rather than what we can sell for)
- Best places to sell (Have tried a couple of merchants, though they are looking for multiple cases at a time, maybe a smaller outfit who would consider a case at a time?)
- Anyone who may potentially be interested in making an offer for a couple of bottles/ a case

Just to add ideally only looking to sell 1 case and a few bottles that are out of cases rather than multiple cases!
I thought we ought to at least answer your questions. So here goes:
Pricing - take a look at www.winesearcher.com. As a rough rule of thumb you should reckon on being able to net about 50% of the lowest winesearcher price. That would equate to about £30 for the Vesuvio, £20 for the Dow, £40 for the Taylor and £25 for the Graham bottles. The reason for the difference between retail and what you can expect to realise is simply down to the margin of the middle men and the perception of risk between buying from a retailer - who has to give you your money back if the bottle is bad - and a private sale where it is caveat emptor.

Best places to sell - for where you are, I would try Dreweatt Neate auctioneers, who are based in Donnington Priory, just to the north of Newbury. You could also try one or two of the smaller local wine merchants but I don't know Newbury well enough to suggest one.

Anyone willing to make an offer - I'm not buying much port these days but I do like the '94 vintage. I'll drop you a private message.
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AHB wrote:
Busterhighmen wrote:I visit today as I have recently been tasked with selling a few bottles of our 1994 collection. We have (off the
I'm looking for help with;
- Pricing (Google gives the retail prices rather than what we can sell for)
- Best places to sell (Have tried a couple of merchants, though they are looking for multiple cases at a time, maybe a smaller outfit who would consider a case at a time?)
- Anyone who may potentially be interested in making an offer for a couple of bottles/ a case

Just to add ideally only looking to sell 1 case and a few bottles that are out of cases rather than multiple cases!
I thought we ought to at least answer your questions. So here goes:
Pricing - take a look at http://www.winesearcher.com. As a rough rule of thumb you should reckon on being able to net about 50% of the lowest winesearcher price. That would equate to about £30 for the Vesuvio, £20 for the Dow, £40 for the Taylor and £25 for the Graham bottles. The reason for the difference between retail and what you can expect to realise is simply down to the margin of the middle men and the perception of risk between buying from a retailer - who has to give you your money back if the bottle is bad - and a private sale where it is caveat emptor.

Best places to sell - for where you are, I would try Dreweatt Neate auctioneers, who are based in Donnington Priory, just to the north of Newbury. You could also try one or two of the smaller local wine merchants but I don't know Newbury well enough to suggest one.

Anyone willing to make an offer - I'm not buying much port these days but I do like the '94 vintage. I'll drop you a private message.
Hi AHB,

Appreciate the advice, and the PM.

One question I do have; is on Winesearcher it lists all prices exc VAT. As soon as I click on the individual links - For example the Taylor's 94 listed at £91, the website it takes you to lists it at £110.

Is this a fair comparison as in reality the cheapest you could buy it is £110 rather than £91?

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Busterhighmen wrote:
AHB wrote:Pricing - take a look at http://www.winesearcher.com. As a rough rule of thumb you should reckon on being able to net about 50% of the lowest winesearcher price. That would equate to about £30 for the Vesuvio, £20 for the Dow, £40 for the Taylor and £25 for the Graham bottles. The reason for the difference between retail and what you can expect to realise is simply down to the margin of the middle men and the perception of risk between buying from a retailer - who has to give you your money back if the bottle is bad - and a private sale where it is caveat emptor.
One question I do have; is on Winesearcher it lists all prices exc VAT. As soon as I click on the individual links - For example the Taylor's 94 listed at £91, the website it takes you to lists it at £110.

Is this a fair comparison as in reality the cheapest you could buy it is £110 rather than £91?
Hi Matt - I'm not sure which vendor you may have checked; some prices on winesearcher include VAT, some (most) do not; Also if you are using the Pro version of winesearcher you get access to a wider range of suppliers (whereas the free version only lists the ones who pay for advertising on the site, I believe). For T94, the lowest I see for T94 at a quick glance is £460 for a 6-bottle case from a major reputable supplier; on checking on their site, this is available in-bond at £77 per bottle, or with duty & vat paid at £92 per bottle. Hope that helps.
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Busterhighmen wrote:Hi AHB,

Appreciate the advice, and the PM.

One question I do have; is on Winesearcher it lists all prices exc VAT. As soon as I click on the individual links - For example the Taylor's 94 listed at £91, the website it takes you to lists it at £110.

Is this a fair comparison as in reality the cheapest you could buy it is £110 rather than £91?

Matt
As Phil says, some of the sites include VAT in their prices and some don't, you do have to look carefully to understand which you are looking at. I didn't go as far as you have in clicking the links, I only looked at the headline prices you get when you do a search.

And you are right - if someone is looking for a bottle to drink the fair comparison would be 50% of the price including duty and VAT.

You can also use winesearcher to check for local wine merchants who might be willing to make you an offer for a few bottles.
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2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Thanks for the comments re vat

In regards to the bottles of Graham's which are 37.5 and as I understand it half bottles as such should I just half the price of a normal bottle or are these valued differently. I can't seem to find any references to go off
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Busterhighmen wrote:Thanks for the comments re vat

In regards to the bottles of Graham's which are 37.5 and as I understand it half bottles as such should I just half the price of a normal bottle or are these valued differently. I can't seem to find any references to go off
You could perhaps round up by a pound or two but really not much more. It really comes down to what you think people will be willing to pay!
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I would just divide the bottle cost by 2 to calculate the price for a half bottle.
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AHB wrote:I would just divide the bottle cost by 2 to calculate the price for a half bottle.
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PhilW wrote:
AHB wrote:I would just divide the bottle cost by 2 to calculate the price for a half bottle.
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Just to update this post by confirming that the bottles sold went to a good home :D Thanks Matt.
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