Taylors 1964. What to do with 8 bottles?

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Taylors 1964. What to do with 8 bottles?

Post by snowb1965 » 13:09 Fri 17 Jan 2014

I've got eight bottles of what I believe to be Taylors 1964 Quinta de Vargallas. These are what remain of a case I was given at christening. I'm not not so crazy about drinking port that I want to get through all remaining eight so I wonder if anybody fancies buying it in its 50th year? Issues. All the labels floated off in a cellar flood in 1970, hence my slight hesitation about what the port is. I took a bottle to a wine merchant in the 90s and I think he told me that it was '64 Quinta de V. One of the bottles has lost the lead around the top. A varied storage history. It was in cellars from '65 through to the mid 90s when it ended up in cool parts of the house but on its side and in darkness. Feels like the right moment to do something with some or all of it. Any suggestions or offers? I live in London. I have decent pictures which I've posted. Try pasting this. http://s827.photobucket.com/user/snowb6 ... t=3&page=1. If it doesn't work I can mail the pictures to interested parties.

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Re: Taylors 1964. What to do with 8 bottles?

Post by Glenn E. » 18:33 Fri 17 Jan 2014

You've picked the right time to try to sell your bottles, but unfortunately their history means you probably won't get a lot of money for them. I'm exactly the kind of person you're looking for - I was born in 1964 and try to purchase bottles whenever I can find them - but even I would be hesitant to buy your bottles.

The flood is a big deal. In addition to causing confusion about what might actually be in the bottles, the flood may have damaged the wine and it would be extremely difficult to tell without opening the bottles.

The storage up until the mid 90s was probably good, but since then even the "cool parts of the house" are warmer than ideal for wine storage.

I can't tell for sure by looking at your pictures, but is it possible to see the cork using a very bright flashlight (or torch, I think you call them in the UK)? If so, you might be able to read more information about the wine, such as the vintage. That would be useful for sale purposes.
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Re: Taylors 1964. What to do with 8 bottles?

Post by snowb1965 » 19:46 Fri 17 Jan 2014

That's interesting but not hugely encouraging. However I drank a couple of bottles in the 90s and they tasted good to me. But I'd be prepared to open one of them and do a tasting although you're in the USA and I'm in the UK so there's a technical difficulty there. I'll have a look at verifying the vintage as you suggest. Any other thoughts?

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Taylors 1964. What to do with 8 bottles?

Post by djewesbury » 19:48 Fri 17 Jan 2014

We're not all in the USA. Taste one and let us know. Do you know if the one missing its capsule was intact during the flood? Sorry, a bit too specific, I know. Maybe you should be opening two then..

Only, if you're doing that, maybe you need to do it in company? There are some members of our little band very close to you.
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Post by Glenn E. » 19:58 Fri 17 Jan 2014

I have volunteers in the UK who will hold bottles for me when/if I need to store them temporarily, so the fact that I'm in the US isn't really a concern. :) These same volunteers would happily join you to test a bottle, and I trust their judgment regarding the quality.

So if you're willing to open a bottle as a "proof of concept" to ensure that they're still in good shape, I would be interested in purchasing the rest. I'll send you (and some of these always-ready volunteers) a PM and hopefully you can all work out a suitable time for a taste test. If you are interested, I'm quite certain that they'd happily bring other bottles with them to the taste test to make an event out of it.

Who knows? You might decide you like Port (and the company of others who enjoy Port) enough to keep them. :)
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Post by DRT » 20:00 Fri 17 Jan 2014

Glenn E. wrote:I have volunteers in the UK who will hold bottles for me when/if I need to store them temporarily, so the fact that I'm in the US isn't really a concern. :) These same volunteers would happily join you to test a bottle, and I trust their judgment regarding the quality.

So if you're willing to open a bottle as a "proof of concept" to ensure that they're still in good shape, I would be interested in purchasing the rest. I'll send you (and some of these always-ready volunteers) a PM and hopefully you can all work out a suitable time for a taste test. If you are interested, I'm quite certain that they'd happily bring other bottles with them to the taste test to make an event out of it.

Who knows? You might decide you like Port (and the company of others who enjoy Port) enough to keep them. :)
An excellent plan.

I'm in :D
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Post by djewesbury » 20:01 Fri 17 Jan 2014

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Glenn E. wrote:I have volunteers in the UK who will hold bottles for me when/if I need to store them temporarily, so the fact that I'm in the US isn't really a concern. :) These same volunteers would happily join you to test a bottle, and I trust their judgment regarding the quality.

So if you're willing to open a bottle as a "proof of concept" to ensure that they're still in good shape, I would be interested in purchasing the rest. I'll send you (and some of these always-ready volunteers) a PM and hopefully you can all work out a suitable time for a taste test. If you are interested, I'm quite certain that they'd happily bring other bottles with them to the taste test to make an event out of it.

Who knows? You might decide you like Port (and the company of others who enjoy Port) enough to keep them. :)
An excellent plan.

I'm in :D
I'm in depending on the date. And on the agreement of the original poster!
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Re: Taylors 1964. What to do with 8 bottles?

Post by jdaw1 » 20:12 Fri 17 Jan 2014

Many of us many more than one bottle of drinking are in the UK, and meet regularly for Port. Could you join us in The Bung Hole for a bring-a-bottle evening?

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Post by snowb1965 » 00:18 Mon 20 Jan 2014

It sounds like an interesting idea. I'm unavailable for the the next day or two but will then decide what to do. B

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Re: Taylors 1964. What to do with 8 bottles?

Post by snowb1965 » 13:08 Tue 28 Jan 2014

Hi there all who are interested in this port. I'm still keen to sell this port and open a bottle if it helps to do so. I've checked the levels and I'd say six of the eight would seem to be completely safe. But I'm no expert of course. I've had a bit of outside interest but a gathering at the Bung Hole in London would suit if it was soon (next three weeks) and would resolve it all. Over to you...

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Re: Taylors 1964. What to do with 8 bottles?

Post by Glenn E. » 17:08 Tue 28 Jan 2014

As I said in my PM, I'm interested and trust their judgment. I can't wait to hear your opinions on how they're holding up!

I suggest opening one of the "duffers" to see what the "worst case" end of the spectrum is like.
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