Two Vintage Bottles - The Chairman's and Porto Adriano Ramos-Pinto

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Two Vintage Bottles - The Chairman's and Porto Adriano Ramos-Pinto

Post by bullybeef » 21:31 Wed 22 May 2019

Hey all!

I inherited two bottles of port, not a port drinker so looking to find out how much they're worth and actually sell them.

Porto Late Bottled Vintage 1985, Bottled in 1989. Produced and shipped by Adriano Ramos-Pinto 750ml

The Chairman's, Late Bottled Vintage, Produce of Portugal, shipped and bottled by Eldridge Pope & Co, Dorchester, Dorset, England. 75CL

Both bottles are unopened, they are both sealed with no cracks etc. They were stored in a cool, dry place for many years.

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Re: Two Vintage Bottles - The Chairman's and Porto Adriano Ramos-Pinto

Post by jdaw1 » 21:52 Wed 22 May 2019

Unwelcome tidings: these are not valuable. The Ramos Pinto 1985 ʟʙᴠ might be £30ish retail, so your likely sale price would be close to £15. The non-dated ʟʙᴠ is worth less than the cost of posting it anywhere. Sorry. Likely not the news you wanted, but still true.

Do you have friends with whom you could share the bottles? Or to whom you could give the bottles?

(Usually I encourage posters to reveal where in the world they, or their bottles, are. But in this case likely redundant.)

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Re: Two Vintage Bottles - The Chairman's and Porto Adriano Ramos-Pinto

Post by bullybeef » 16:00 Thu 23 May 2019

jdaw1 wrote:
21:52 Wed 22 May 2019
Unwelcome tidings: these are not valuable. The Ramos Pinto 1985 ʟʙᴠ might be £30ish retail, so your likely sale price would be close to £15. The non-dated ʟʙᴠ is worth less than the cost of posting it anywhere. Sorry. Likely not the news you wanted, but still true.

Do you have friends with whom you could share the bottles? Or to whom you could give the bottles?

(Usually I encourage posters to reveal where in the world they, or their bottles, are. But in this case likely redundant.)
Thanks for the swift reply, I appreciate the honesty and the welcome.

I didn't expect them to be worth a lot to be honest, but I'm surprised the pinto is that low. I've seen online stores just now with places selling it for £50 - £85. Winedecider states that the average is £59 for the 1985. I'm not saying you are wrong or anything, just curious why you value it lower, have you seen it sell for that recently?

I'm in the UK. Some of the places selling it for more are in the US or Portugal / Spain. Maybe this is why?

I don't know anyone that drinks port, unfortunately, to be honest, any profit on it is better than nothing. I had a very nice whiskey set which I was able to gift out as I knew whiskey drinkers.

Where would be the best place to sell the Pinto in the UK? I'm from Leeds. If you know of course.

Again, thanks for the reply I appreciate it a lot.

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Re: Two Vintage Bottles - The Chairman's and Porto Adriano Ramos-Pinto

Post by DRT » 11:43 Fri 24 May 2019

bullybeef wrote:
16:00 Thu 23 May 2019
I'm surprised the pinto is that low. I've seen online stores just now with places selling it for £50 - £85. Winedecider states that the average is £59 for the 1985. I'm not saying you are wrong or anything, just curious why you value it lower, have you seen it sell for that recently?
I think you might be confusing two styles of Port here. The online prices you quote are likely to relate to Ramos Pinto 1985 Vintage Port. What you have is "Late Bottled Vintage Port", which is a different style and is intended to be drunk shortly after bottling. This style of wine does not tend to increase in value with age but "Vintage Port" does.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: Two Vintage Bottles - The Chairman's and Porto Adriano Ramos-Pinto

Post by bullybeef » 12:00 Fri 24 May 2019

DRT wrote:
11:43 Fri 24 May 2019
bullybeef wrote:
16:00 Thu 23 May 2019
I'm surprised the pinto is that low. I've seen online stores just now with places selling it for £50 - £85. Winedecider states that the average is £59 for the 1985. I'm not saying you are wrong or anything, just curious why you value it lower, have you seen it sell for that recently?
I think you might be confusing two styles of Port here. The online prices you quote are likely to relate to Ramos Pinto 1985 Vintage Port. What you have is "Late Bottled Vintage Port", which is a different style and is intended to be drunk shortly after bottling. This style of wine does not tend to increase in value with age but "Vintage Port" does.
Ah you are absolutely correct! I was getting those two mixed up. It's why I came here to speak to the experts ey, thanks so much for clearing that up.

A shame it's not worth more but it is how it is. I'd just gift it to someone if I knew someone who drank port.

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Re: Two Vintage Bottles - The Chairman's and Porto Adriano Ramos-Pinto

Post by AHB » 13:43 Fri 24 May 2019

Try giving Tennant's Auctioneers a ring. They run wine auction 2-3 times per year and might be willing to include these bottles in their next sale. If they do, you might get a little money from selling them after covering all the auction fees.
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Re: Two Vintage Bottles - The Chairman's and Porto Adriano Ramos-Pinto

Post by DRT » 18:56 Fri 24 May 2019

bullybeef wrote:
12:00 Fri 24 May 2019
DRT wrote:
11:43 Fri 24 May 2019
bullybeef wrote:
16:00 Thu 23 May 2019
I'm surprised the pinto is that low. I've seen online stores just now with places selling it for £50 - £85. Winedecider states that the average is £59 for the 1985. I'm not saying you are wrong or anything, just curious why you value it lower, have you seen it sell for that recently?
I think you might be confusing two styles of Port here. The online prices you quote are likely to relate to Ramos Pinto 1985 Vintage Port. What you have is "Late Bottled Vintage Port", which is a different style and is intended to be drunk shortly after bottling. This style of wine does not tend to increase in value with age but "Vintage Port" does.
Ah you are absolutely correct! I was getting those two mixed up. It's why I came here to speak to the experts ey, thanks so much for clearing that up.

A shame it's not worth more but it is how it is. I'd just gift it to someone if I knew someone who drank port.
Glad that helped clear things up.

If you don't drink Port, what do you drink?

I visit Leeds every few weeks and perhaps a swap could be arranged where we each end up not going thirsty?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn

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Re: Two Vintage Bottles - The Chairman's and Porto Adriano Ramos-Pinto

Post by bullybeef » 21:42 Sun 26 May 2019

DRT wrote:
18:56 Fri 24 May 2019
bullybeef wrote:
12:00 Fri 24 May 2019
DRT wrote:
11:43 Fri 24 May 2019
bullybeef wrote:
16:00 Thu 23 May 2019
I'm surprised the pinto is that low. I've seen online stores just now with places selling it for £50 - £85. Winedecider states that the average is £59 for the 1985. I'm not saying you are wrong or anything, just curious why you value it lower, have you seen it sell for that recently?
I think you might be confusing two styles of Port here. The online prices you quote are likely to relate to Ramos Pinto 1985 Vintage Port. What you have is "Late Bottled Vintage Port", which is a different style and is intended to be drunk shortly after bottling. This style of wine does not tend to increase in value with age but "Vintage Port" does.
Ah you are absolutely correct! I was getting those two mixed up. It's why I came here to speak to the experts ey, thanks so much for clearing that up.

A shame it's not worth more but it is how it is. I'd just gift it to someone if I knew someone who drank port.
Glad that helped clear things up.

If you don't drink Port, what do you drink?

I visit Leeds every few weeks and perhaps a swap could be arranged where we each end up not going thirsty?
I drink Gin buddy! Happy to trade if you ever want to.

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