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In the [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=85996#p85996]Crusted port database[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Christie’s, 6th July 1931: “Dow’s, crusted, 10 years in bottle”, sold at 48/- and 44/- per dozen.
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At the start of the thread entitled [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9408]Seal, Capsule, Dip[/url] jdaw1 wrote:From an auction on 19 March 1935 by Messrs. Christie, Manson & Woods, “the Property of James Warren, Esq. late of Capel House, Waltham Cross”.

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Pray, kinds sirs, what be the difference between a colour of “Seal”, of “Capsule”, and of “Dip”?
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In the thread [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86199#p86199]Large bottle sizes: a campaign[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Large bottles: ancient precedent

Auction by Messrs. Christie, Manson & Woods on 12 April 1937, “of Rare Wines & Liqueurs, Generously presented for Sale for the Benefit of The Funds of Queen Charlotte’s Hospital”.
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In its own small way, the end of an era.

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Please explain.
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Presumably the company became "Ltd" in 1940.
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DRT wrote:Presumably the company became "Ltd" in 1940.
Oh. <sigh>
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From the Red Cross Sale, 16 October 1941.
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Does that handwritten note mean that this shipwrecked port was purchased by Fortnum's?
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djewesbury wrote:Does that handwritten note mean that this shipwrecked port was purchased by Fortnum's?
Yes, at 260/- per dozen.
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From the Red Cross Sale, 16 October 1941.
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[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86228#p86228]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Large bottles: ancient precedent

Auction by Messrs. W. & T. Restell, and Messrs. Christie, Manson & Woods, on 16 October 1941, being the Red Cross Sale.
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From the Red Cross Sale, 17 November 1941.
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From the (second day of the) Red Cross Sale, 18 November 1941.
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From the (second day of the) Red Cross Sale, 18 November 1941.
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Please, no comments on when who invented Late Bottled Vintage.
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From the (second day of the) Red Cross Sale, 18 November 1941.
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Thank you for digging these out and posting them, most fascinating. I suppose i don't need to ask you to keep it up, but please do.

Also, what is the intended outcome from collecting these? Are you creating a database of all port sold at Christie's and if so, what will this be used for?
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PopulusTremula wrote:what will this be used for?
A book, Port Vintages.

Others, not for the book, are posted merely because they were thought to be of possible interest.
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Just to keep the links together, here is a pointer to Wine & Spirits (Prohibition of Auction Sales), 1942.

From the auction by Christie, Manson & Woods, Ltd., on 16 June 1943.
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Aha. Hence your earlier reference to the end of an era?
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Being a non-Brit, what was the reason for this prohibition? I could probably guess WW2, but that would be too easy and I'm sure there is a far more complicated answer.
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I reckon your first guess was right. Rationing had been introduced. It hardly looked good to have fine wine auctions at such a time. There may be more to it than that though..
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[url=https://hogsheadwine.wordpress.com/tag/mushroomwineshops/]this[/url] wine blogger wrote:In June 1942 the Ministry of Food limited the auction of wine and spirits to only those with a license to prevent racketeers from making a quick profit.
[url=http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1942/jul/29/wine-and-spirit-stocks-disposal#S5CV0382P0_19420729_HOC_269]Here[/url], Hansard wrote:HC Deb 29 July 1942 vol 382 cc514-5

§66. Mr. Kirby asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food the reasons for his Order No. 1271, dated 30th June, 1942, prohibiting the sale by auction of wines and spirits except under licence; whether he has considered the possibility that this Order may encourage the owners of stocks to dispose of them in such a way that they may reach the black market; and whether he will consider amending the Order so that holders of stocks who have ceased to hold excise licences shall be permitted to dispose of their stocks to licensed dealers otherwise than by auction in accord with normal practice?

•Mr. Mabane: The intention of the Wine and Spirits (Prohibition of Auction Sales) Order, 1942, is to restrict the intrusion of adventurers into the wine and spirits trade. It is a condition of licences granted under the Order that an auctioneer may sell only to holders of an excise licence authorising them to sell wine or spirits by wholesale or by retail. In reply to the last part of my hon. Friend's Question, the Order does not provide a means for the disposal of stocks to the black market, and it does not affect wine or spirits which are sold otherwise than by auction.

•Mr. Kirby: Is the hon. Gentleman aware that disposing of the stocks in the manner prescribed by the Order leads to this position, that one firm of auctioneers deal almost entirely with stocks for disposal in this way, and they get their rake-off irrespective of whether proper value is obtained for the goods or not?

•Mr. Mabane: No. Sir.

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Another Red Cross Sale, by Messrs. W. & T. Restell, with “Messrs. Christies” at Derby House (Christie’s premises having been destroyed), starting on 5 July 1943.
The auctioneers, in the ‘Conditions of Sale’, wrote:2.—It is ruled that the goods are at the buyer’s risk from the fall of the hammer and providing they are in existence at that time, will be considered as a sale effected.

4.—It having been considered advisable that the Lots should not be assembled together, the gifts in most instances remain with the Donors, until instructions are given on the Delivery Order by the purchasers as to delivery.

5.—The descriptions as printed in the Catalogue are those supplied by the Donors, and the Lots are sold with all faults and errors of description, and must be paid for and arrangements made for collection within 14 days of the Sale if complying with the second Condition, Messrs. W. & T. Restell not being responsible for the correct descriptions, genuineness or authenticity of, or any fault or defect in any Lot, and making no warranty whatever.
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Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 11 March 1971.
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