Do you have to have a reason to drink good port?
Do you have to have a reason to drink good port?
This started as a question I was going to ask Uncle Tom after his Tasting Note. In fact I still will here and now
Tom,
Can I be nosey? If I was to drink a Taylors 83, or similar bottle, I would need an occasion. Doesn't have to be much, a friend visiting, a birthday,etc,etc.
I get the feeling your lucky enough to have the cellar and the inclination to just 'Open a bottle'. Is that true or do you attach it to a reason.
Alan
But of course, what about the rest of you. Am I alone in needing a good reason, Do loads of you just indulge yourselves when your in the mood?
Alan.
Tom,
Can I be nosey? If I was to drink a Taylors 83, or similar bottle, I would need an occasion. Doesn't have to be much, a friend visiting, a birthday,etc,etc.
I get the feeling your lucky enough to have the cellar and the inclination to just 'Open a bottle'. Is that true or do you attach it to a reason.
Alan
But of course, what about the rest of you. Am I alone in needing a good reason, Do loads of you just indulge yourselves when your in the mood?
Alan.
Alan,
I am unlikely to open what I class as a "Real" VP without some good reason. I don't have an absolute definition of "Real" but for the sake of argument lets equate it directly to cost and call it anything with a retail value of around £30 or more.
I will open bottles in the £10 to £20 range without thinking about it too hard, although most of my consumption by volume is probably below £10 due to my habit of buying vast quantities of supermarket 50% off offers.
The £20 to £30 bottles probably take a hit once a month just because I want one. Above that it tends to be special occassions or Offlines.
Derek
I am unlikely to open what I class as a "Real" VP without some good reason. I don't have an absolute definition of "Real" but for the sake of argument lets equate it directly to cost and call it anything with a retail value of around £30 or more.
I will open bottles in the £10 to £20 range without thinking about it too hard, although most of my consumption by volume is probably below £10 due to my habit of buying vast quantities of supermarket 50% off offers.
The £20 to £30 bottles probably take a hit once a month just because I want one. Above that it tends to be special occassions or Offlines.
Derek
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Here are my top twenty reasons:
1. Births
2. Deaths
3. Marriages
4. Birthdays
5. Anniversaries
6. Bah Mitzvahs
7. Christmas
8. Diwali
9. Easter
10. New Year
11. Saints Days
12. There's some cheese
13. There's some chocolate
14. It's cold
15. It's hot
16. I have visitors
17. I am visiting someone
18. I need cheering up
19. Someone else needs cheering up
20. I fancy a glass of port
1. Births
2. Deaths
3. Marriages
4. Birthdays
5. Anniversaries
6. Bah Mitzvahs
7. Christmas
8. Diwali
9. Easter
10. New Year
11. Saints Days
12. There's some cheese
13. There's some chocolate
14. It's cold
15. It's hot
16. I have visitors
17. I am visiting someone
18. I need cheering up
19. Someone else needs cheering up
20. I fancy a glass of port
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I feel a little guilty hogging an old or valuable bottle to myself, but aside from that I don't feel the need for an 'occasion' to crack a bottle.Can I be nosey? If I was to drink a Taylors 83, or similar bottle, I would need an occasion. Doesn't have to be much, a friend visiting, a birthday,etc,etc.
I get the feeling your lucky enough to have the cellar and the inclination to just 'Open a bottle'. Is that true or do you attach it to a reason
I choose bottles for a variety of reasons - mostly they go on 'death row' first, and then get picked for reasons that are fairly spontaneous.
I chose the Taylor '83 because a) I don't think I've tackled one before, and b) it's some time since I last opened an '83.
My other death row bottles are currently:
Graham '75
Vargellas '78
Gould Campbell '77
Croft '66
Only the Croft is being held for a special occasion - I am currently on my annual starvation (diet) - ten pounds down, with eight to go - the Croft will be my reward when I hit my target - hopefully before the end of July..
Tom
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I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Because I fancy some port. Only reason.
Because I fancy some port. Only reason. (You see, I always fancy some port. So that reasons hold true every time I open a bottle. Supplementary reasons include the wife fancying port, a port tasting, or just because I fancy some port. It’s really that easy.)
Nine in ten are VP.
Nine in ten are VP.
I usually have some sort of occasion for the moment - opening one of the limited VPs in my stock that are "ready to drink" or near ready means I am opening a bottle worth at least $150 usually. I suppose when I get to be around 60 and the '03s start to mature, assuming I've picked up ample stocks of them, I will likely open them more often due to "just because."
Todd
Todd
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E.g.Derek T. wrote:I'd love to know what the 1 is?9 in 10 are VP
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I tend to be with Jay here. Anything from the 80s or 90s or 00s is fair game for me on my own.
About once a month I will open something older, because its there and happens to be leaking or just looking sad. This will generally be something from the 70s or 60s and, again, generally where I have more than one of them.
Older bottles tend to only get opened when I am with other port appreciaters so that they don't get wasted.
Alex
About once a month I will open something older, because its there and happens to be leaking or just looking sad. This will generally be something from the 70s or 60s and, again, generally where I have more than one of them.
Older bottles tend to only get opened when I am with other port appreciaters so that they don't get wasted.
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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I can testify that it is possible not to waste a bottle of old port without other port appreciaters in attendanceAHB wrote: Older bottles tend to only get opened when I am with other port appreciaters so that they don't get wasted.
Derek
PS: AHB, do I have to mention the words "Quinta do Noval Nacional 1960"
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
my word Andy, you can get VP for UNDER $30 in the US? I thought it was just the UK where this wonderful condition exists. Ok, for SURE now I have to move out of Canada.ADV wrote:Mines a combo of Jay, Derek, and Alex. The younger stuff, say 1990-forward, and the cheaper stuff (under $30) get opened whenever without care. The older and more expensive stuff I try and open with other port loving friends so others can share in the fun.
Todd
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