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Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 15:25 Mon 17 Aug 2015
by jdaw1
On what date did the wine merchant deliver this Port?
Is it “4 Jan 1911” (which was a Wednesday)?
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 15:37 Mon 17 Aug 2015
by djewesbury
Are there any immediately preceding or subsequent dates in the ledger?
Handwriting questions
Posted: 15:37 Mon 17 Aug 2015
by djewesbury
And is this definitely a date?
Is it possible to include more of the surrounding text as context?
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 16:57 Mon 17 Aug 2015
by jdaw1
Reload previous image. And
Yes, definitely a date.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 17:13 Mon 17 Aug 2015
by PhilW
Agree on "4 Jan 1911"
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 17:16 Mon 17 Aug 2015
by djewesbury
Yes. Seeing his looped Js and the rounded nature of his other characters confirms this.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 17:22 Mon 17 Aug 2015
by jdaw1
Thank you team.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 17:31 Mon 17 Aug 2015
by flash_uk
And Jan makes sense given the chronological sequencing - it immediately follows 1914, and is then followed by date entries which look like March and April.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 17:42 Mon 17 Aug 2015
by djewesbury
flash_uk wrote:And Jan makes sense given the chronological sequencing - it immediately follows 1914, and is then followed by date entries which look like March and April.
You're looking at the wrong image.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 16:49 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by jdaw1
Who is the second partner in the wine merchant selling the Martinez 1904?
Not scaled, brightened, added contrast:
Could it be (a surprisingly French) “frère”? Or “friere”, with lower-case ‘f’?
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 18:54 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by djewesbury
& Grieve.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 18:54 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by Alex Bridgeman
Look at the similarity of the start of the unknown word to the two occurrences of "the" earlier in the photo. I would see the unknown word as being something such as THRIEVE
Handwriting questions
Posted: 18:56 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by djewesbury
Handwriting questions
Posted: 18:58 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by djewesbury
Thrieve? Are you smoking crack? That's an 'and' sign (reduced ampersand) and a G.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 19:01 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:& Grieve.
Interesting.
And this picture came from Trinity College.
Edit: your researching the name was faster.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 21:16 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by Alex Bridgeman
djewesbury wrote:Thrieve? Are you smoking crack? That's an 'and' sign (reduced ampersand) and a G.
No. Skunk. Goes better with Dow '91.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 21:39 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by DRT
AHB wrote:djewesbury wrote:Thrieve? Are you smoking crack? That's an 'and' sign (reduced ampersand) and a G.
No. Skunk. Goes better with Dow '91.
I completely agree.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 22:06 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by djewesbury
I should point out that it was my keen, orthographic detective's eye which revealed the answer. Google followed after, as corroboration.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 23:27 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by DRT
djewesbury wrote:I should point out that it was my keen, orthographic detective's eye which revealed the answer. Google followed after, as corroboration.
I knew that. You are clearly feeling insecure in needing to point it out. Man up.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 23:39 Thu 27 Aug 2015
by djewesbury
I just thought I should advertise my good points. Like the Americans do.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 22:50 Tue 01 Sep 2015
by jdaw1
Small image:
Link to
large image, with original colouration.
“Sealed G. B. Clarke & Co”? “… & Son”? Other?
(Nothing else in this hand: no further clues.)
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 23:05 Tue 01 Sep 2015
by DRT
& Co.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 00:47 Sat 12 Sep 2015
by jdaw1
Whence comes this Croft 1834?
(Second picture has added brightness and contrast, and colour completely de-saturated.)
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 07:15 Sat 12 Sep 2015
by PhilW
Bin No. 58 Port
1875 April 13 Bought by ?. C. ???? Esq
of ?? ?????? "1834"
Thompson and Crofts at 75/-
cost with expenses 100/-
I can't decipher the buyer's name or seller's name properly, the latter looks something like "Wm. Tilliffe" (shortened Wilhelm?) but I have no confidence in that reading. Does look like purchase of "1834 Thompson & Crofts" though, not just Croft.
Re: Handwriting questions
Posted: 10:21 Sat 12 Sep 2015
by jdaw1
My question asked “whence”. You have answered everything else (though I think the no-expenses cost was 95/-). And Croft was formerly known as Thompson & Croft.