Re: Port Glasses Test
Posted: 23:49 Wed 15 Jun 2011
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hahah just a little too small to fit a colt 45 =)Glenn E. wrote:I read somewhere that the wine glass used on Cougar Town holds 44 oz. I don't know whether or not the picture I posted in the 44 oz glass, though.
Alas churchills-port.com is down, so there isn’t a picture.Churchill’s Port, in a press release dated May 2011 and just received by email, wrote:A new wine glass ”“ unique in its elegance and lightness
The art of drinking Port Wine from a Churchill’s glass
With the true Port Wine connoisseur in mind, Churchill has introduced an exclusive new glass for tasting and enjoying Port Wine. This hand-made glass allows all the unique characteristics of a fine Port Wine to be appreciated to the full.
In continued pursuit of the philosophy of a high-quality Port Wine producer, Churchill’s has tried to bring to the table the same care which is demonstrated from the moment of conception of a Port Wine. In the words of Maria EmÃlia Campos, Churchill’s marketing and sales director, ‟we firmly believe that the glass itself is of fundamental importance to the enjoyment of the very best that a wine can offer, from the actual tasting to the sensation of touch. Since there was nothing on the market which displayed the contours, elegance and lightness we were seeking, it was decided that we should create our own!
In an effort to ensure that drinking Port Wine becomes an ever-more pleasurable act of elegance, distinction and sophistication, Churchill’s has given birth to an exclusive glass for the delight of the true Port Wine connoisseur. With a tulip-shaped bowl and finest calibre glass, it has the slenderest of round stems, creating an immediate impression of lightness and elegance.
Churchill’s chose to reproduce the style of a precious old wine calice which had been discovered amongst family treasures and, in collaboration with Schott Zwiesel, created a glass of Tritan Crystal, completely free of both lead and barium, besides being 60% more resistant and long lasting than lead crystal.
‟We are conscious that the glass is a feature of supreme importance in the serving, drinking and appreciation of Port Wine”, added Maria EmÃlia Campos. ‟The Churchill’s glass has been conceived with the true connoisseur and Port Wine lover in mind, acknowledging his pursuit of a life of quality and tempered pace. This was our challenge in the design of the glass, exclusivity not only in design and style but equally in the materials employed. This glass pays ‘homage’ to Port Wine, which we ardently believe should be appreciated with elegance and style.”
Available for purchase at €15,00 at Churchill’s Visit Centre, in Vila Nova Gaia, Rua da Fonte Nova, 5.
The site is back up, but I can't find any mention of the glass.jdaw1 wrote:Alas churchills-port.com is down, so there isn’t a picture.
Either, 1, www.jdawiseman.com/placemat.html; or 2, ask me.PhilW wrote:I'll have to look into how to create the tasting mats
Phil - a very interesting test. But which will be your "go-to" glass...?PhilW wrote: Conclusions
Some very preliminary conclusions given the limited testing:
(a) The Riedel, ISO and Taylor glass all allow for straightforward smelling, are not too sensitive to quantity in the 45-90ml range, and a slight swirl aids the nose.
(b) The Schott glass when filled to 45ml, provided excellent ability to smell the flavours without the spirit obscuring them compared with the others, but is more sensitive to quantity in the glass
(c) I must leave more time between each glass to gain a proper appreciation of each when moving from glass to glass
(d) I possess only a limited amount of will-power to prevent me from drinking the glasses
Very nice port, and still some left for tomorrow
Phil.
6?! Is that counting lead/non-lead variants of the same shape? I was only aware of the Sommelier (out of my price range!) and Vinum port glasses.g-man wrote: Riedel makes well over 6? different kinds of port glasses now.
I did think about that, but could not think of a suitable olfactory cleanser as opposed to something which simply overrides, and would therefore likely be no more valid than a suitable pause.g-man wrote:Philw, you need a control smell in between each sniff.
Riedel Vinum Portg-man wrote:Btw which riedels are you using? Riedel makes well over 6? different kinds of port glasses now.
Honestly I think I'll probably use the Riedel - the Riedel and ISO were very similar but the Riedel seemed to have the slight edge on immediate pour+smell, and with the slightly wider shape is probably more forgiving on portion size. That said, the Schott might be better on the first night if the bottle were only decanted for short time, as it seemed to help bypass the spirit and give more access to the full flavours on the nose (but only if I pour very small portions) and then use the Riedel on the following night to finish the bottle. I'd be happy drinking from any of them (except the Penderyn).RAYC wrote:Phil - a very interesting test. But which will be your "go-to" glass...?
RAYC wrote:6?! Is that counting lead/non-lead variants of the same shape? I was only aware of the Sommelier (out of my price range!) and Vinum port glasses.g-man wrote: Riedel makes well over 6? different kinds of port glasses now.
Doesn't all that say that they have one Port glass which comes in two qualities (Vinum and Sommelier) and lots of other glasses that it is possible to drink Port from?g-man wrote:they have many different lines
reidel recommends port with the following lines
vinum - port/sherry glass
vinum xl - icewine glass
o - spirit glass
ouverture - sherry glass
and i'm not including the 5 other wine lines they have that look to be suitable usage as it's the same bowl shape
http://glassware.riedel.com/index.php/riedel.html
yes, but notice the bowl shapes for the 4 i stated are differentDRT wrote:RAYC wrote:6?! Is that counting lead/non-lead variants of the same shape? I was only aware of the Sommelier (out of my price range!) and Vinum port glasses.g-man wrote: Riedel makes well over 6? different kinds of port glasses now.Doesn't all that say that they have one Port glass which comes in two qualities (Vinum and Sommelier) and lots of other glasses that it is possible to drink Port from?g-man wrote:they have many different lines
reidel recommends port with the following lines
vinum - port/sherry glass
vinum xl - icewine glass
o - spirit glass
ouverture - sherry glass
and i'm not including the 5 other wine lines they have that look to be suitable usage as it's the same bowl shape
http://glassware.riedel.com/index.php/riedel.html
PhilW wrote:I did think about that, but could not think of a suitable olfactory cleanser as opposed to something which simply overrides, and would therefore likely be no more valid than a suitable pause.g-man wrote:Philw, you need a control smell in between each sniff.
Phil.
I'm assuming you're suggesting smelling it, as opposed to drinking or snorting it?g-man wrote:Tap water.PhilW wrote:I did think about that, but could not think of a suitable olfactory cleanser as opposed to something which simply overrides, and would therefore likely be no more valid than a suitable pause.g-man wrote:Philw, you need a control smell in between each sniff.
sounds like something else i should try this weekendPhilW wrote:I'm assuming you're suggesting smelling it, as opposed to drinking or snorting it?g-man wrote:Tap water.PhilW wrote:I did think about that, but could not think of a suitable olfactory cleanser as opposed to something which simply overrides, and would therefore likely be no more valid than a suitable pause.g-man wrote:Philw, you need a control smell in between each sniff.
No. The Vinum is a "generic" Port glass. The Sommelier glasses come in Tawny and Vintage varieties, neither of which is exactly the same as the Vinum Port glass. So they have at least 3 different Port glasses as well as several other glasses that might be appropriate (or not) for Port. They also have a Riedel Bar series Port glass, but it looks to me like it's the same as the Vinum Port glass.DRT wrote:Doesn't all that say that they have one Port glass which comes in two qualities (Vinum and Sommelier) and lots of other glasses that it is possible to drink Port from?
The Mqlvedos blog suggests that the Sommelier Vintqge Port also comes in two varieties - hand blown lead crystal and machine blown non-lead. Presumably, if/when the latter is available commerciqlly, it will be signifiantly cheaper.Glenn E. wrote:The Vinum is a "generic" Port glass. The Sommelier glasses come in Tawny and Vintage varieties, neither of which is exactly the same as the Vinum Port glass.
That doesn't sound right to me. I believe that the distinguising characteristic of the Sommelier series is that they are all mouth-blown lead crystal. Anything machine made would by definition be a different series. As near as I can tell from the Malvedos blog, the machine-blown glass in question is the Restaurant Series Port glass, which is alleged to be identical to the Sommelier Vintage Port glass.RAYC wrote:The Mqlvedos blog suggests that the Sommelier Vintqge Port also comes in two varieties - mouth blown lead crystal and machine blown non-lead. Presumably, if/when the latter is available commerciqlly, it will be signifiantly cheaper.Glenn E. wrote:The Vinum is a "generic" Port glass. The Sommelier glasses come in Tawny and Vintage varieties, neither of which is exactly the same as the Vinum Port glass.
Now then, chaps, who's going to step up to the challenge and report back with a test of this one? {no photographs please}Wine and Food, No. 141, Winter 1968, page 80 wrote:We disapprove of: ! The way so many fine British wine glasses are made of crystal thick enough to support heavy decorative cutting on the bowls Why not restrict this to the stems and feet? Trying to drink a fine wine from a thick glass is like trying to make love to a woman who is wearing long woolly underwear.