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Doggett wrote:Aldi have an amazing value for money Maynard's 40Y Aged tawny Port for just £29.99. I have just got a couple of bottles, but not tried it yet.

At that price I'd have bought a couple, too! That's a crazy good price for a 40-yr old.

Doggett wrote:Aldi have an amazing value for money Maynard's 40Y Aged tawny Port for just £29.99. I have just got a couple of bottles, but not tried it yet. I did have a few bottles of their xmas release last year, which was a very lovely 30Y tawny for £30 and I hope this to be even nicer. They also have a Maynard's 1989 Vintage port for £19.99. and a Maynard's 10Y Tawny for £9.99.
Has anyone had a Maynard's VP port before, and if so, would they recommend?

Simon

I've had a couple of young Maynard's ports but nothing like as old as 1989. How about taking one for the team and trying it?

The latest incarnation of Maynard's was created by Cristiano van Zeller and a few others only four or five years ago. I believe the aged wines they sell under that brand are bought in from other producers/shippers. VP from 1989 could not have been made by Matnard's. I wonder if this is re-badged Cruz 1989, which was made in vast quantity?

Thanks for the heads-up Simon, I have just picked up a couple of bottles of the 40yr tawny this morning, which says on the back label that it is from Barao de Vilar; I also picked up one of the '89 VPs just for interest, hoping I would not be increasing my Cruz '89 stock - which on the back label says "bottled by Barao de Vilar" (vs my Cruz '89 which says "bottled by Gran Cruz").

I wouldn't pay too much attention to that, Phil. Barao de Vilar, which AHB, Andy V, JDAW and I visited about four years ago have only themselves just returned to the Port shipping business. I don't think they have any vineyards and I don't think they produced Port for over a century before their recent re-incarnation. I seem toremember that Oscar was involved in at least one of their aged tawnies but can't be certain.

My guess is that whoever is running Maynard's has purchased a stock of 1989 VP and re-corked/re-labeled it as their own. Cruz just seems a likely candidate to me as there was so much of it made (1,000,000 bottles!) and I can't think of any other producer who made a significant amount of Port that year. That is of course pure speculation.

The Casa do Douro has huge volumes of old tawny, stored in concrete. A new company’s old tawny might well be Casa do Douro.

jdaw1 wrote:The Casa do Douro has huge volumes of old tawny, stored in concrete. A new company’s old tawny might well be Casa do Douro.

Indeed. But they don't have VP.

Waitrose have just substituted a Fonseca Guimaraens 1998 for the unavailable Warre LBV. In price terms I have done very well (A £23.99 bottle for £14.86) but I feel a little disappointed still!

DRT wrote:I wouldn't pay too much attention to that, Phil. Barao de Vilar, which AHB, Andy V, JDAW and I visited about four years ago have only themselves just returned to the Port shipping business. I don't think they have any vineyards and I don't think they produced Port for over a century before their recent re-incarnation. I seem toremember that Oscar was involved in at least one of their aged tawnies but can't be certain.

We visited Vilar d'Allen, which is different from Barao de Vilar - the only connection being a similar name. From memory Barao de Vilar was set up with a team including one of the Van Zeller family and currently has the labels Barao de Vilar, Feuerheerd and Maynards in the portfolio. Maynards is being used for sales to Aldi, Barao de Vilar for other BoBs and Feuerheerd for the prestige market. I couldn't determine whether these were different wines in the bottles as well as different labels.

AHB wrote:We visited Vilar d'Allen, which is different from Barao de Vilar

Do you happen to know if any of the companies that now form BdV were producing VP in 1989?

Lidl have the following in the Christmas listing:

Cockburn Qunita dos Canais 2001 VP £19.99
Warre's Otima 20Y Tawny (500ml) £19.99
Saint Clair 1997 colheita £14.99
Saint Clair 2007 White Colheita £14.99
Saint Clair 2009 LBV £9.99
Armilar 10Y Tawny £9.99

Simon

Waitrose cellars have 15% discount today only. Use BLACK2015. If you buy 12 bottles you get another 5%. Warre LBV is already 1/3 off so it can be acquired at £12/bottle if you buy 12!


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Not quite port but there is Moët NV at £23 a bottle at Tesco and with 25% off when you buy 6 that is £17.25 a bottle. Bolly at £22.50/bottle too...

LGTrotter wrote:Not quite port but there is Moët NV at £23 a bottle at Tesco and with 25% off when you buy 6 that is £17.25 a bottle. Bolly at £22.50/bottle too...

I can see I'm going home via Tesco...

AHB wrote:

LGTrotter wrote:Not quite port but there is Moët NV at £23 a bottle at Tesco and with 25% off when you buy 6 that is £17.25 a bottle. Bolly at £22.50/bottle too...

I can see I'm going home via Tesco...

I was thinking of you, or to be precise, your wife.

LGTrotter wrote:

AHB wrote:

LGTrotter wrote:Not quite port but there is Moët NV at £23 a bottle at Tesco and with 25% off when you buy 6 that is £17.25 a bottle. Bolly at £22.50/bottle too...

I can see I'm going home via Tesco...

I was thinking of you, or to be precise, your wife.

Sauce!

Today our local Sainsbury have many ports and champagne reduced, plus the 25% off for 6 bottles (mixed wine, port, champagne) offer as well.

PhilW wrote:Today our local Sainsbury have many ports and champagne reduced, plus the 25% off for 6 bottles (mixed wine, port, champagne) offer as well.

Was going to post the same adding that the Graham's Crusted 2002/2003 was already reduced from £20 to £15 making the per bottle cost £11.25 as part of the offer.

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Depuis 2000? With that name? Really? OK, if you say so.

jdaw1 wrote:Depuis 2000? With that name? Really? OK, if you say so.

Following in the ancient tradition of Port shippers?

February Sale by Nickolls and Perks. Large number of wines reduced, several very tempting indeed, but I held firm (mostly).

DaveRL wrote:February Sale by Nickolls and Perks. Large number of wines reduced, several very tempting indeed, but I held firm (mostly).

Thanks for the heads up. Some interesting pricing eg is the V94's star that much in the ascendancy that a case is worth over a £100 more than F94?!

idj123 wrote:

DaveRL wrote:February Sale by Nickolls and Perks. Large number of wines reduced, several very tempting indeed, but I held firm (mostly).

Thanks for the heads up. Some interesting pricing eg is the V94's star that much in the ascendancy that a case is worth over a £100 more than F94?!

It is interesting and surprising. Just checked, and the V94 price seems a little high and the F94 a little low, compared to other merchants on wine searcher, so tentatively I think no, not yet. On the rise though?

Some very odd pricing indeed. A case of 6 T92 is £570, a case of 12, £1425.

Darn it, I thought I'd finished buying port for at least a few months but I couldn't resist that Fonseca '94. Don't know how I'm going to afford it, but I'm telling myself that I've saved money in the long term...
Rich.