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AHB wrote:(Yeatman 1991 @ €31 - and it's not Morgan since we bought it all).

Does its cork agree with your buying habits

(edit: for those not familiar a certain Somm there at the hotel who refused to admit it was a rebranded Morgan, until it was pointed out to her by fact and she couldn't dispute it any longer and finally admitted it was. Quite amusing conversation some years ago now).

Not a hotel, but for those staying in or visiting London this may be an alternative place to eat if you need a change from Davy's wine bars. Taberna in Spitalfields market serves petiscos and has an excellent list of Portuguese wines. On the dessert wine list are:

• NV Morgadio de Calcada dry white £3.60 (75ml pour) / £32 (bottle)
• NV Casa de Santa Eufemia white tawny £9.90 / £89
• NV Niepoort Ruby £4 / £36
• 2007 Morgadio de Calcada £7.70 / £69
• 2001 Niepoort Secundum £9 / £72
• 2007 Quinta do Portal £48 (half)

Mrs B and I lunched at the Beetle & Wedge in Moulsford yesterday. Out of curiosity I looked through their wine list. I was exceedingly impressed when I came across:
Smith Woodhouse Fine Ruby - £6.50 for a 100ml pour
Dow 2009 LBV - £7.00 for 100ml
Sandeman 10 year old tawny - I failed to note the price
Offley 20 year old tawny - £12.50 for 100ml
Graham Malvedos 1995 - £16 for 100ml
Graham Malvedos 1987 - £70 per bottle
Graham Malvedos 1968 - £150 per bottle

I must make sure to return when I am not driving!

In March, Mrs B and I had the opportunity to take afternoon tea at Stoke Park. Sadly, despite the tea being very fine, it's not somewhere I can recommend a port lover to visit. Port on the list comprised:
Sandeman LBV (year not specified) - £9 for 75ml
Sandeman 10 year old - £10.50 for 75ml
Sandeman 20 year old - £15.00 for 75ml

The Horse and Groom in Upper Oddington in the Cotswolds has behind the bar:
Tesco Own Label Ruby Port (SFE)
Cockburn Special Reserve
Tesco Finest 2011 LBV (bottled 2016) (SFE)
Quinta do Infantado 10YO Tawny

I didn't make a note of prices other than that the Infantado was £5 for 50ml.

One too many d's in the village Alex!

Did you pop around to Lady Bamford's for some lovely but overpriced food?

Justin K wrote: ↑16:58 Sun 30 Apr 2017 One too many d's in the village Alex!

Did you pop around to Lady Bamford's for some lovely but overpriced food?

Village name corrected! Thank you.

We did pop round to see Lady B. She wasn't in but some of her staff were. I bought some cheese from the cheese room and we left - we were not loud enough or well enough groomed to stay.

CMAG and I visited Bar Douro in Flat Iron Square, London, last night. As might be expected, they had a good wine list featuring a wide range of Portuguese wines including Barca Velha 2008 (@ £390 per bottle) and Quinta da Leda 2011 (@ £90 per bottle).

Other than the Churchill 1997 (@ £14) I didn't make a note of the ports which were available by the glass, but by the bottle the choice was:
Churchill Estate Reserve @ £34
Churchill Estate White @ £40
Churchill Estate 10YO Tawny @ £45
Churchill 20YO Tawny @ £62
Churchill 2008 LBV @ £46
Churchill Gricha 2012 @ £86
Churchill 1997 @ £125
Cockburn 1977 @ £135
Dow 1985 @ £140
Quinta do Noval 1982 @ £150
Warre 1980 @ £155
Warre 1975 @ £185

Not a cheap selection but the food was good and it was surprisingly busy from opening at 6pm through to around 10pm when I left.

For the sake of good order, I’m posting here in case anyone not familiar with the Boot & Flogger is visiting London and wants a glass of Port. The B&F currently offer Graham 10 and 20 YO, Dow 1994, Taylor 1997 and Offley 2000 by the glass and have a fine wine list which includes Graham 1966 and Taylor 1963.

But I think the award for London’s most impressive vintage port list has got to go to Bar Douro, which offers:
Churchill Ruby Reserve @ £34
Churchill White Port (50cl) @ £40 - this is basically a 10YO white
Churchill 10YO Tawny (50cl) @ £45
Churchill 2011 LBV @ £46
Churchill 20YO Tawny (50cl) @ £62
Churchill Quinta da Gricha 2012 @ £86
Churchill 1997 @ £105
Morgan 1991 @ £115
Fonseca Guimaraens 1988 @ £185
Dow 1985 @ £155
Noval 1982 @ £145
Warre 1975 @ £140
Fonseca 1970 @ £300
Warre 1970 @ £210
Gould Campbell 1966 @ £250
Taylor 1966 @ £275
Taylor 1963 @ £310
Gonzalez Byass 1955 @ £380

Has anyone seen a better list in London?

Blackhouse on the Square in Leeds has three ports on their list, all available by the glass or bottle. They are:

• Quinto do Vallado 10YO Tawny @ £6.50 for a 100ml glass or £30 for a 500ml bottle
• Warre’s Warrior @ £5.00 for a glass or £31 for a 750ml bottle
• Warre 2013 Filtered LBV @ £5.50 or £36 for a 750ml bottle

The Mercure Hotel at Box Hill, Burford Bridge has the following to offer...

Cockburn's Fine Ruby - £4.95/70ml, £35 per bottle
Graham's LBV 2012 - £6.95/70ml, £55 per bottle
Graham's 10yr Tawny - £6.95/70ml, £55 per bottle

DRT wrote: ↑00:18 Wed 10 Oct 2018 The Mercure Hotel at Box Hill, Burford Bridge has the following to offer...

Cockburn's Fine Ruby - £4.95/70ml, £35 per bottle
Graham's LBV 2012 - £6.95/70ml, £55 per bottle
Graham's 10yr Tawny - £6.95/70ml, £55 per bottle

I didn’t realise under weights and measures in licensing that you could sell 70ml. When I was working in pubs, port and sherry were sold at a standard double measure or multiples of that. Over the years I have had to convince some pubs that a glass of port was 50ml as a standard and not 25ml... and then obviously order a double standard measure!

EDIT: I have looked it up on the licensing act and port, Sherry or fortified wine should be sold in 50ml, 70ml or multiples of. My mistake.

DRT wrote:The Mercure Hotel at Box Hill, Burford Bridge has the following to offer...

Cockburn's Fine Ruby - £4.95/70ml, £35 per bottle
Graham's LBV 2012 - £6.95/70ml, £55 per bottle
Graham's 10yr Tawny - £6.95/70ml, £55 per bottle

A hotel with an old fashioned outdoor pool. 5 miles down the road from me! And with a direct train from Reigate. You didn’t need to drink alone!


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benread wrote: ↑21:38 Fri 12 Oct 2018A hotel with an old fashioned outdoor pool. 5 miles down the road from me! And with a direct train from Reigate. You didn’t need to drink alone!

I will remember that the next time I stay there!

Current Port offering at 67 Pall Mall:

Other
Pink, Croft 50cl £40.00

Tawny
Ramos Pinto Quinta do Bom Retiro 20 Year Old £82.00

Colheita
Barros 1978 £215.00
Kopke, 1967 £329.00

Vintage
'Vale do Inferno' Quinta de la Rosa 2011 £64.00
Nacional, Quinta do Noval 2003 £1,173.00
Nacional, Quinta do Noval 2000 £1,277.00
Madalena, Smith Woodhouse 1998 £47.00
Dow's 1997 £83.00
Ramos Pinto 1995 £73.00
Martinez 1994 £98.00
Niepoort 1994 £74.00
Warre's 1994 £92.00
Fonseca 1985 £102.00
Dow's 1977 £223.00
Fonseca 1977 £378.00
Grahams 1977 £223.00
Grahams 1970 £280.00
Taylor's 1970 £351.00
Cockburn's 1967 £179.00
Taylor's 1966 £312.00
Fonseca 1963 £391.00
Sandeman 1963 £247.00

125ml glasses of Madalena 98 (£8), Niepoort 97 (£11) and Fonseca 85 (£17) are available.

Thanks nac. Niepoort ‘97 is a strange one to offer. Almost all bottles are faulty I had thought.

flash_uk wrote: ↑20:37 Fri 23 Nov 2018 Thanks nac. Niepoort ‘97 is a strange one to offer. Almost all bottles are faulty I had thought.

Not tried it. If I do will report back...

At the Don Restaurant if you ask them nicely they will show you the original cellars, they even gave my wife and I a free glass of tawny each. As for Vintage Ports I saw last week a single opened bottle of Grahams 2000 in a High Holborn pub that specialises in beers, I asked the barman who advised me he had never seen anyone drinking a glass nor had he ever sold any. I didn't try risking it as they had already mugged us with £7.45 for a pint of a 4.2% keg beer.

Spotter Brown wrote: ↑17:58 Tue 11 Dec 2018 At the Don Restaurant if you ask them nicely they will show you the original cellars, they even gave my wife and I a free glass of tawny each. As for Vintage Ports I saw last week a single opened bottle of Grahams 2000 in a High Holborn pub that specialises in beers, I asked the barman who advised me he had never seen anyone drinking a glass nor had he ever sold any. I didn't try risking it as they had already mugged us with £7.45 for a pint of a 4.2% keg beer.

Please do name the pub! We used to frequent the Davy Holborn Wine Cellar (known as the Bung Hole when we used to visit) and drank in a few of the nearby pubs from time to time. Which is the pub that mugs you and then tries to cheer you up with a glass of ale?

If anyone has the opportunity to visit the Oxford & Cambridge club, their current Vintage Port list comprises of Dow 1997 @ £60, Graham 1997 @ £62, Taylor 1997 @ £63 and Taylor 1994 @ £65.

Update on current offering at 67 Pall Mall:

TAWNY & "OTHER"
Quinta da Gaivosa, 20 YO Tawny, Alves de Sousa 50cl,£66.00 
20 Year Old Tawny Port, Barros, £64.00 
Pink, Croft 50cl, £40.00 
10 Year Old White Port, Kopke Half Bottle (37.5cl), £40.00 
30 Year Old White Port, Kopke Half Bottle (37.5cl), £72.00 
Very Old Dry White Port, Kopke, £345.00 
Ten Year Old White Port, Niepoort, £62.00
30 Year Old Tawny Port, Kopke, £88.00 
Port, 20 Years Old Tawny, Quinta do Noval, £65.00 
Quinta do Bom Retiro 20 Year Old Tawny, Ramos Pinto, £82.00

COLHEITA
Colheita White Port, Kopke 2008 £ 57.00
Kopke 2004 £48.00 
Kopke 1999 £ 66.00 
Kopke 1998 £ 66.00 
Barros 1996 £ 64.00 
Kopke 1989 £ 124.00 
Kopke 1987 £ 99.00 
Kopke 1985 £ 102.00 
Kopke 1979 £ 147.00 
Barros 1978 £ 215.00 
Kopke 1976 £ 158.00 
Kopke 1975 £ 168.00 
Kopke 1967 £ 329.00 
Kopke 1966 £ 239.00 
Kopke 1958 £ 397.00 
Kopke 1941 £ 608.00 

VINTAGE
Quinta do Vesuvio 2007 £ 89.00 
Quinta do Vesuvio 2005 £ 96.00 
Fonseca 2003 £ 102.00 
Quinta do Noval Nacional 2003 £ 1,173.00 
Quinta do Vesuvio 2003 £ 100.00 
Grahams 2000 £ 101.00 
Quinta do Noval Nacional 2000 £ 1,277.00 
Quinta do Vesuvio 2000 £ 96.00 
Quinta do Vesuvio 1999 £ 89.00 
Fonseca Guimaraens 1998 £ 53.00 
Quinta do Vesuvio 1998 £ 100.00 
Fonseca 1997 £ 86.00 
Quinta do Noval 1997 £ 319.00 
Ramos Pinto 1995 £ 73.00 
Grahams 1994 £ 126.00 
Martinez 1994 £ 98.00 
Smith Woodhouse 1994 £ 71.00 
Cockburn's 1991 £ 92.00 
Dow's 1991 £ 95.00 
Warre's 1991 £ 109.00 
Fonseca 1983 £ 137.00 
Warre's 1983 £ 110.00 
Dow's 1977 £ 223.00 
Fonseca 1977 £ 378.00 
Grahams 1977 £ 223.00 
Taylor's 1977 £ 303.00 
Fonseca 1970 £ 319.00 
Grahams 1970 £ 280.00 
Taylor's 1970 £ 351.00 
Cockburn's 1967 £ 179.00 
Taylor's Very Old Single Harvest Port 1965 £ 348.00 
Croft 1963 £ 265.00 
Fonseca 1963 £ 391.00 
Sandeman 1963 £ 280.00 
Taylor's 1963 £ 413.00 
Warre's 1963 £ 258.00

With the following by the glass (125ml):

Barros, Colheita 1996 £ 11.00
Fonseca Guimaraens 1998 £ 9.00 
Fonseca 1997 £ 14.50
Smith Woodhouse 1994 £ 12.00
Dow's 1991 £ 16.00
Grahams 1991 £ 16.00
Warre's 1985 £ 19.50

Interesting Port list. How did you manage to get to know what they had available?

AHB wrote: ↑23:14 Fri 05 Apr 2019 Interesting Port list. How did you manage to get to know what they had available?

I'm a member so have online access to the live winelist. Just did a cut & paste.

Hawksmoor Air Street have a good selection of Port:

• Quinta do Valladolid 10YO Tawny @ £5 per glass or £35 per 50cl bottle
• Quinta de la Rosa 2014 LBV @ £6.50 or £57
• Quinta de la Rosa 2005 @ £7.50 / £80
• Quinta da Pacheca 20YO Tawny @ £9.00 / £85
• Taylor 1970 @ - / £335