Hotel or Restaurant Price List of the Week

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Hotel or Restaurant Price List of the Week

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I thought it might be fun to have a thread to record good and bad port prices in hotels.

My first contribution is The Rubens in London.

Fonseca Bin 27 - £59 per bottle

Taylor's LBV 2000 - £68 per bottle

Taylor's 10 yr old - £79 per bottle

Dow's 1997 VP - £95 per bottle

:shock:

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I stayed at The Rubens…

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I stayed at The Rubens in London on the night of the Linden Wilkie Nacional Tasting (rather than The Rubens in Blackpool).

Good thread idea, which might slightly extend to bars.
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Wow Derek, those are some crazy prices...

$25 USD for a 1½ ounce pour of Warre 1985 VP (that happens to have been sitting open for anywhere between 2 weeks and 4 months.) :shock:

My good lord.

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The Hotel Gale, (Pronouced Ga-la) in Albuferia, Algarve, Portugal.

8┚¬ or £5.50 for a glass of 94 Niepoort. Staff no idea when it was opened, because as they pointed out 'it doesn't effect it' :roll:

And having laughed at 10pm at their insolence. I bought a glass at 3am.
No Tasting Note, I cant even rember the colour! Think it was reddish. :oops:

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Re: I stayed at The Rubens…

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jdaw1 wrote: Good thread idea, which might slightly extend to bars.
I just happened to be in a hotel when I thought up the title - happy for it to extend to anywhere with a wine list 88)

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A random hotel in Woolacombe Bay, Devon (sorry, can't remember the name).

Warre's Otima 10 yr old - £3.50 per glass 88)

Also on the shelf at the same price were Taylor's 10 yr old and Taylor's LBV 2001.


All of these went well with Candy-floss :lol:

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WOW, those are some wild prices Derek :shock:
8┚¬ or £5.50 for a glass of 94 Niepoort. Staff no idea when it was opened, because as they pointed out 'it doesn't effect it' Rolling Eyes
Alan, I would have asked them to open a fresh bottle for me...since it "Doesn't effect it" anyways :roll: Just shows how little people know about our favorite beverage...wait, if that keeps prices down then I'm all for them not knowing too much :lol:
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ADV,

Great reposte. I'll use that one in the future. Unfortunately, having started drinking at around 6pm-ish, at 3am-ish I was doing well to stand, and breath, and make my self understood at the bar...absolutely NO chance of thinking of decent replies! :roll:

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Ohh, in that case I'll cut you some slack :wink: :P Actually, after 9 hours of drinking I'm surprised you remembered what the bottle was...but why wait until 6pm to start....10am is much better :twisted:
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OK - here I am in London for yet another week of Hotel life :?

Tonight I had the pleasure of dining (not staying) at The Goring, just around the corner from HRH's London aparments. Very nice grub, slightly stingy on the portion sizes.

When the cheese arrived I was overcome with emotion and decided that the only solution was to have some port. I had 2 choices:
  • Cockburn's LBV 2000 @ £8 per glass or
  • Warres Quinta da Cavadinha 1989 @ £9 per glass
I have to say that the £5 difference in price for the port that I consumed was good value for money :wink:

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Not sure if this counts, but…. On holiday in Austria last year the hotel bar was offering Baileys for 12 euros a shot.

I stuck to Eggenberg and Grüner Veltliner. I also enjoyed some wonderful Reisling.
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I'm in the Hilton Am Tucherpark in Munich, who have a very limited offer of port but one on which I can survive for a couple of days. Their offer is:

Ramos Pinto 20 year old tawny (rather tasty) - EUR 9,50
Ramos Pinto Tawny (not to be drunk when the 20 year old is on offer) - EUR 7,50
Sandeman Ruby (not to be drunk) - EUR 7,50

All served in a nicely shaped port / ISO glass filled to the widest part of the glass, so a decent tasting pour.

Expensive, but a couple of glasses on the company helps to wash the steak down.

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That's not too bad for a hotel.
LadyR and I once had dinner in a restaurant where they had the 10YO Ramos Pinto for 7 euro a glass. After we asked if there wasn't anything else they came up with a bottle of 30YO Ramos Pinto. They didn't have it listed in the computer, so they offered it for the same price. We didn't complain. :) :wink:
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Hotel SolVerde, Granje, Vila Nova de Gaia.

1963 Burmeista. 320 Euro's a Glass.

Beat that?

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I've got a Gilberts '63 Colheita on death row at the moment - Gilbert being the second name of Burmester - cost: £17.05 the bottle..

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Alan,

I have a Burmester 1963. I had 2 bottles and did not have a good experience with the first one and have no great expectation of the other. You can have the whole bottle for 320 Euro :lol: :lol:

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Gee...Shucks...with friends like you....
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Don't knock the Burmester '63 Vintage Port. I had one of these a few years back now (5 or 6) and it was very pleasant. I've also had the Burmester '63 colheita but I'm not a great colheita fan and didn't enjoy it as much as the vintage port.

I'll offer you EUR 3,20 for the bottle...
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I'm not knocking it. The bottle I had was suffering from bottle shock and didn't have any chance of showing well. I'm sure the other one will be good, but not worth 320 Euro per glass :roll:

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Derek,

I think you'll find that ┚¬3,20 is 3 Euro's and 20 cents. So he's offering £2 for the bottle.
If you dont get the hang of that before next weekend (I've heard a whisper your going away!) there will be some very happy shopkeepers, when you pay for things.

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The Don Restaurant, St Swithins Lane, London

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This is a restaurant now established in the old bottling factory of the Sandeman company in London. I've eaten there and the food is very good and the range of ports on offer is very impressive.

However, you may spot why Derek and I did not go there tonight as we originally planned ...

Prices are per bottle
Sandeman 1927 £750
Sandeman 1935 £670
Sandeman 1947 £650
Sandeman 1960 £190
Sandeman 1963 £265
Sandeman 1966 £190
Sandeman 1970 £150

Cockburn 1927 £900
Smith Woodhouse 1947 £390
Dow 1950 £320
Graham 1960 £185
Fonseca 1960 £220
Taylor 1963 £425
Graham 1970 £240
Fonseca 1970 £260
Fonseca 1975 £110
Graham 1975 £100
Graham 1983 £115
Croft 1985 £95
Fonseca 1985 £145
Taylor 1985 £140
Warre 1985 £125

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WOW...even in the US they are cheaper :shock:
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Re: The Don Restaurant, St Swithins Lane, London

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AHB wrote:This is a restaurant now established in the old bottling factory of the Sandeman company in London.
Prices are per bottle

Sandeman 1970 £150
Graham 1960 £185
That doesn't sound too bad.
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Famous Steakhouse, even better one the company card or per diem.

Cockburn 1997 $160.00 USD
Grahams 30 Year $150.00
Grahams LBV 2000 $70.00
Quinta Noval Colheita 1937 $650.00
Quinta Noval Colheita 1941 $625.00
Quinta Noval Colheita 1976 $250.00
Quinta Noval Silval 2000 $125.00
Quinta Noval 20 Year $115.00
Taylor 1997 $450.00
Warre Nimrod $85.00
Warre Otima 10 375ml $55.00
Warre Otima 20 375ml $75.00
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Re: The Don Restaurant, St Swithins Lane, London

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mosesbotbol wrote:
AHB wrote:This is a restaurant now established in the old bottling factory of the Sandeman company in London.
Prices are per bottle

Sandeman 1970 £150
Graham 1960 £185
That doesn't sound too bad.
The prices may not sound too bad until you put them into the context of the UK retail market - Sandeman 1970 can be purchased retail for £40 and Graham 1960 for £71. Paying £110 for the privilege of drinking one of these wines in that particular restaurant was just more than we felt we could justify - especially when the Crusting Pipe in Covent Garden were able to provide us with the bottle of Grahams 1983 for £46 and the bottle of Skeffington 1994 for £30 (and a bottle of Taylor 1963 for £146 that we didn't open and I took home!).

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