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Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 02:06 Thu 25 Nov 2010
by jdaw1
Christopher & Co. Ltd, Summer 1976.
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Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 02:06 Thu 25 Nov 2010
by jdaw1
Christopher & Co. Ltd, Summer 1978.
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Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 10:14 Thu 25 Nov 2010
by jdaw1
Hiscox & Co., Wine & Spirit Dealers, of 146 Upper Shirley Road, Shirely, Croydon, Surrey.
Autumn 1966
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The address is now that of a hairdresser.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 22:47 Thu 25 Nov 2010
by JacobH
jdaw1 wrote:Christopher & Co. Ltd, Xmas 1930.
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The ‟Princess” Port is quite interesting; we usually assume that a Crusted Port is made out of youngish vintages to produce (as the catalogues frequently say) a cheaper form of Vintage Port. But there is no reason why they could not, instead, make a premium version with older vintages, to produce a ruby version of an aged and blended tawny Port...

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 10:37 Fri 26 Nov 2010
by jdaw1
Not Crusting, nor the side-discussion of LBV, but nonetheless, from the May 1986 Trade catalogue of Christopher & Co., the ‟best sort of officers’ mess-night” port. (Best sort of officers? Best sort of mess night? Best sort of port? Presumably British Army, so the first is assumed, and the third might be tricky to justify. So let’s assume the second.)
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Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 20:31 Fri 26 Nov 2010
by jdaw1
Hatch Mansfield, September 1976.
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Size; No in case; Under 3 cases; 3 to 6; 7 to 12; 13 to 24; 25+.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 23:22 Sat 27 Nov 2010
by jdaw1
Summer 1970, R. S. Don Ltd., on subsequent page describing themselves as ‟associated consultants of Christie's”.
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Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 23:29 Sat 27 Nov 2010
by jdaw1
R. S. Don Ltd., 1968/1969.
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Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 01:05 Sun 28 Nov 2010
by jdaw1
George Hill Ltd Price List wrote:Churchill's Crusted - bottled 2000/01 (2 years blended together, then bottled)

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 00:15 Mon 29 Nov 2010
by jdaw1
M W Gilbey, Wholesale Wine List, Autumn 1981
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Apologies for the problem with focussing.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 01:08 Wed 08 Dec 2010
by jdaw1
Winter 1964/65, from Edwin Giddings Ltd
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As usual, ‟*Bottled in Oporto”.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 22:22 Thu 09 Dec 2010
by uncle tom
The references to the Fonseca/Guimaraens Q. Mileu '58 in the Christopher catalogues are intriguing..

A '63 bottling was offered in '64, but in '65 the bottling was listed as '62..

Am I correct in thinking that neither catalogue used the terms 'Crusted' or 'Late bottled vintage', and that the Wine Society retains its place for bottling the same wine in 1964 (in the UK as opposed to Oporto) and then being the first merchant to offer the product as 'Late bottled vintage' in the spring of the same year?

Tom

PS: List updated - Fonseca '06 also added, as Cookie and I were offered it in VNG recently.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 02:27 Fri 10 Dec 2010
by Andy Velebil
uncle tom wrote:The references to the Fonseca/Guimaraens Q. Mileu '58 in the Christopher catalogues are intriguing..

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This is a bottle that is for sale in the US right now, a store has it for $100. I've been sent pictures which are clearly stated "Late Bottle Vintage" on the original label. I've thought about getting one just for curiosity, but at that price I keep spending the money on other older VP's that are a better bet*

*meaning, I know them to be drinking very well and I have no idea how well an old abscure LBV is holding up in a year not known for being great overall.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 10:24 Fri 10 Dec 2010
by uncle tom
which are clearly stated "Late Bottle Vintage" on the original label
Is this a UK (Wine Society) bottling, or an Oporto bottling?

- can you post the pics?

Tom

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 16:18 Fri 10 Dec 2010
by Andy Velebil
Opps, darn memory wasn't spot on yesterday, it says "Late Bottled 1964" and it's from Avery's.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 23:34 Fri 10 Dec 2010
by jdaw1
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Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 23:37 Fri 10 Dec 2010
by jdaw1
Andy Velebil wrote:Opps, darn memory wasn't spot on yesterday, it says "Late Bottled 1964" and it's from Avery's.
And it has an embarrassingly prominent spelling error on the label.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 01:28 Sat 18 Dec 2010
by DRT

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 09:53 Sat 18 Dec 2010
by uncle tom
From what Dirk said the other night, I think the Niepoort 2005 previously recorded was 2005 juice bottled in 2007, so one and the same.

List amended

Tom

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 11:29 Sat 18 Dec 2010
by DRT
uncle tom wrote:From what dirk said the other night, I think the Niepoort 2005 previously recorded was 2005 juice bottled in 2007, so one and the same.
That makes it a Vintage Port. I wonder why Dirk chose not to have it approved and released as a VP?

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 23:36 Mon 27 Dec 2010
by jdaw1
The Army & Navy Co-Operative Society, April 1875:
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Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 23:49 Mon 27 Dec 2010
by jdaw1
The Army & Navy Co-operative Society, March 1908:
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Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 09:04 Tue 28 Dec 2010
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:The Army & Navy Co-operative Society, March 1908:
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This is Colheita, not Crusted.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 09:36 Tue 28 Dec 2010
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:This is Colheita, not Crusted.
Yes, but as the thread had expanded into a discussion of the inventor of LBV, I thought that this modest further expansion might be of interest.

Re: Crusted port database

Posted: 10:35 Tue 28 Dec 2010
by uncle tom
This is Colheita, not Crusted
I think at the time it would have been known as a 'Refreshed Tawny' - the permitted term today for a 40yr+ tawny blend is 'Very Old Tawny'

Colheitas have to be from a single harvest.

Tom