Corked/Spoilt Ports - Name and Shame

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Post by jdaw1 » 23:04 Thu 04 Apr 2013

Not good. Had a wine merchant just shipped that to you?

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Post by djewesbury » 23:21 Thu 04 Apr 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Not good. Had a wine merchant just shipped that to you?
bidforwine = private auction. But seller being very helpful so at least I'll get my money back. It was shipped in a tube. Surely a few corners would give greater structural integrity? There was no liquid left in the packaging, and the cardboard was also only slightly damp, so it must have broken fairly early in the shipping.
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Post by jdaw1 » 23:47 Thu 04 Apr 2013

djewesbury wrote:There was no liquid left in the packaging, and the cardboard was also only slightly damp, so it must have broken fairly early in the shipping.
Somebody else’s computer equipment, collected from a nearby address, will be sticky and non-functional.

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Post by djewesbury » 00:52 Fri 05 Apr 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:There was no liquid left in the packaging, and the cardboard was also only slightly damp, so it must have broken fairly early in the shipping.
Somebody else’s computer equipment, collected from a nearby address, will be sticky and non-functional.
But will smell rather nice. For a little while at least.
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Post by djewesbury » 10:29 Sun 21 Apr 2013

1977 Dow
Badly oxidised. Full note here.
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Post by AHB » 16:34 Sun 12 May 2013

1985 Warre in a half bottle was so full of VA as to be undrinkable.
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Post by RAYC » 17:14 Sun 12 May 2013

AHB wrote:1985 Warre in a half bottle was so full of VA as to be undrinkable.
1985 or 1983...? Or both?!
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Post by AHB » 18:54 Sun 12 May 2013

RAYC wrote:
AHB wrote:1985 Warre in a half bottle was so full of VA as to be undrinkable.
1985 or 1983...? Or both?!
1985 - thank you. TN now corrected.
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Post by AHB » 10:17 Tue 04 Jun 2013

Offley Boa Vista 1977 - full of TCA
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Post by CPR 1 » 22:54 Thu 02 Jan 2014

1985 Graham was so full of VA as to be undrinkable most disappointing!

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Post by Miguel Simoes » 04:33 Fri 10 Jan 2014

1977 Dow VP
Picked it to be our Thanksgiving VP but by dessert time i couldnt get myself to drink it. It was tasting fine over the first hour or two in decanter. More than half the bottle went down the drain the following day. so sad.

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Post by Andy Velebil » 04:56 Fri 10 Jan 2014

Miguel Simoes wrote:1977 Dow VP
Picked it to be our Thanksgiving VP but by dessert time i couldnt get myself to drink it. It was tasting fine over the first hour or two in decanter. More than half the bottle went down the drain the following day. so sad.
Sadly, pretty typical for this port.

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Post by AHB » 09:08 Fri 10 Jan 2014

Another bottle of Gould Campbell 1977 opened on 8th Jan 2014 was tainted, initially not too badly but it got worse.
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Post by griff » 00:52 Sun 01 Jun 2014

1977 Sandeman corked :cry:

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Post by AHB » 20:58 Mon 02 Jun 2014

Dow 1985 spoiled by VA
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Post by jdaw1 » 21:56 Mon 02 Jun 2014

Two days ago, a Graham Crusted bottled 1998, TCA-tastic.

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Post by djewesbury » 22:01 Mon 02 Jun 2014

jdaw1 wrote:Two days ago, a Graham Crusted bottled 1998, TCA-tastic.
The GC98 in my glass right now is not corked but has a LOT of VA, even two days in.
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Post by flash_uk » 22:09 Mon 02 Jun 2014

djewesbury wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Two days ago, a Graham Crusted bottled 1998, TCA-tastic.
The GC98 in my glass right now is not corked but has a LOT of VA, even two days in.
Bought my first bottle of this at the weekend. Hope it fares better than these examples!

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Post by griff » 07:40 Sat 10 Jan 2015

2005 Quinta do Noval LBV (unfiltered) - TCA of the worst kind. The just above threshold stuff that has you guessing, wondering, worrying at the absent bouquet and the closed (aka stripped) palate. Leaving it an hour and coming back to it we have proof positive with the musty odour developing. So frustrating and no replacement likely in the Antipodes.

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Post by idj123 » 11:39 Sun 11 Jan 2015

Ok, even being aware of the poor hit rate(what is it quoted at-1 in 4, 1 in 5?), on the occasion of my brother-in-law's 38th birthday, I decanted a bottle of D77. Early signs were fair post decant, but when it came to be consumed at D+7, there was that familiar woody smell. It wasn't smothering and indeed only one person commented on it but with that plus the overly spirity aftertaste I knew that I had experienced first hand, the curse of the D77!

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Post by WMB » 17:51 Sat 21 Feb 2015

Hi everyone, The other day I opened up 12 bottles of Cockburns 1994 port. 4 out of the 12 had strong Gloo/Nail varnish aromas. I think this is VA (Volatile Acidity - Acetic Acid Bacrearia Spoilage). How many of you are experiencing the same thing with 1994 Cockburns? Thanks

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Post by AHB » 22:27 Sat 21 Feb 2015

WMB wrote:Hi everyone, The other day I opened up 12 bottles of Cockburns 1994 port. 4 out of the 12 had strong Gloo/Nail varnish aromas. I think this is VA (Volatile Acidity - Acetic Acid Bacrearia Spoilage). How many of you are experiencing the same thing with 1994 Cockburns? Thanks
I've only had the Ck94 a handful of times and am yet to be convinced of its quality. I've never been able to pin down my lack of satisfaction to VA, but maybe that's what's been causing my unhappiness.
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Post by LGTrotter » 23:38 Sat 21 Feb 2015

WMB wrote:Hi everyone, The other day I opened up 12 bottles of Cockburns 1994 port. 4 out of the 12 had strong Gloo/Nail varnish aromas. I think this is VA (Volatile Acidity - Acetic Acid Bacrearia Spoilage). How many of you are experiencing the same thing with 1994 Cockburns? Thanks
Blimey! You go for it on a night in. That does seem a rather high failure rate, but not unheard of with this wine. It does divide opinion, some saying it is excellent port, others saying it is a known trap. The difficulty is that I trust the opinions of those on both sides of the debate. I bought some, just in case.

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Post by WMB » 12:28 Sun 22 Feb 2015

AHB wrote:
WMB wrote:Hi everyone, The other day I opened up 12 bottles of Cockburns 1994 port. 4 out of the 12 had strong Gloo/Nail varnish aromas. I think this is VA (Volatile Acidity - Acetic Acid Bacrearia Spoilage). How many of you are experiencing the same thing with 1994 Cockburns? Thanks
I've only had the Ck94 a handful of times and am yet to be convinced of its quality. I've never been able to pin down my lack of satisfaction to VA, but maybe that's what's been causing my unhappiness.
Thanks AHB and LG Trotter, In my book anything smelling of UHU Gloo or nail varnish is not very attractive, so the wine has been spoiled by microbal contamination. Surely there comes a point where. if the wine has been bought shortly after shipment and stored in a proper private cellar, that the Port House has a case to answere too!!!! You do not expect VA in so many bottles from one case. Any comments please.

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Post by Andy Velebil » 16:18 Mon 23 Feb 2015

VA is a wine making issue. It will affect all the wine made. Though some bottles can show it more than others if exposed to more heat, as that will cause it to bloom and become more noticeable. Cockburn's had some issues during this period, as did some other producers.

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