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djewesbury wrote:they produced very little.

g-man wrote:they made 300 cases

No disagreement there.

Gentlemen, thank you for your advice - have just placed an order for

A case of 1997 Vesuvio
A case of 2000 Vesuvio
A case of 2011 Dow

Smith Woodhouse 1994 VP (Magnum)

I was lured in by ex quinta six packs of Warre '80 and '85 as well as Graham '80 and Dow '85.

Also, curiosity got the better of me by way of a Noval '82 and two Dow '70, the elders w somewhat poor fills.

There is a Warre 80 and 83 at the sask liquor store for ~95 CAD/btl. Are either worth it at that price?

gardenhose wrote:There is a Warre 80 and 83 at the sask liquor store for ~95 CAD/btl. Are either worth it at that price?

I believe there are better things you can buy at that price, and I wouldn't spend that much for either of those.

SushiNorth wrote:

gardenhose wrote:There is a Warre 80 and 83 at the sask liquor store for ~95 CAD/btl. Are either worth it at that price?

I believe there are better things you can buy at that price, and I wouldn't spend that much for either of those.

I believe there are better things you can buy at that price, in the UK or the US.

SushiNorth wrote:

gardenhose wrote:There is a Warre 80 and 83 at the sask liquor store for ~95 CAD/btl. Are either worth it at that price?

I believe there are better things you can buy at that price, and I wouldn't spend that much for either of those.

If that equates to approx. £65, i don't think that's a bad price at all if provenance is good - even in the UK. Of those i think i prefer the Warre 83.

You're only going to be able to make big savings if you buy by the case or from auction.

Given the ongoing harumph regarding TFP buying out Krohn I bought a few colheita.

two 1991s, two 1982, a 1978, a 1968 and last but not least two 1964 branco.

Somebody on this forum was very excited by the 1964 Branco, I hope I am too.

LGTrotter wrote:Given the ongoing harumph regarding TFP buying out Krohn I bought a few colheita.

two 1991s, two 1982, a 1978, a 1968 and last but not least two 1964 branco.

Somebody on this forum was very excited by the 1964 Branco, I hope I am too.

I am intending to buy some of these also. Please don't buy the last ones left.

djewesbury wrote:

LGTrotter wrote:Given the ongoing harumph regarding TFP buying out Krohn I bought a few colheita.

two 1991s, two 1982, a 1978, a 1968 and last but not least two 1964 branco.

Somebody on this forum was very excited by the 1964 Branco, I hope I am too.

I am intending to buy some of these also. Please don't buy the last ones left.

I did ask if I could have the ones destined for Daniel. They said yes.

Nearly forgot to mention the 3 Warre 94, so excited was I by my first proper haul of colheitas.

LGTrotter wrote:

djewesbury wrote:

LGTrotter wrote:Given the ongoing harumph regarding TFP buying out Krohn I bought a few colheita.

two 1991s, two 1982, a 1978, a 1968 and last but not least two 1964 branco.

Somebody on this forum was very excited by the 1964 Branco, I hope I am too.

I am intending to buy some of these also. Please don't buy the last ones left.

I did ask if I could have the ones destined for Daniel. They said yes.

Nearly forgot to mention the 3 Warre 94, so excited was I by my first proper haul of colheitas.

Sorry I made you cry.
I am very unsure about white port as a concept. So I will probably just look at them in confusion until someone offers to take them away.

LGTrotter wrote:Sorry I made you cry.
I am very unsure about white port as a concept. So I will probably just look at them in confusion until someone offers to take them away.

Aged white port is a very good concept.
snif

Case of Smith Woodhouse 77

CPR 1 wrote:Case of Smith Woodhouse 77

Good choice! I love that port - and in my experience has nothing like the problems with TCA that Dow and Gould Campbell have.

1977 Dow's VP
1983 Croft Q da Roeda

Oh right, I also received my 2011 VP's from the UK about 10 days ago

6x Warre 2011
6x Cockburn's 2011
my 6x Fonseca 2011

Now all I have to do is to pick up my order of Quevedo 2011 when visiting Oscar this summer.

gerwin.degraaf wrote:1977 Dow's VP
1983 Croft Q da Roeda.

djewesbury wrote:

gerwin.degraaf wrote:1977 Dow's VP
1983 Croft Q da Roeda.

I know , both have a questionable reputation to say the least, but it's always a bit of a gamble, which I got at a reasonable price. And the good bottles (non-corked) of D77 seem to be very good (according to the reviews, never had it myself before), and I have had the Roeda 1983 before and it showed quite good and was very enjoyable.

Cases of Ramos Pinto 1994 and Fonseca 1985. The latter vintage continues to be relatively unloved apart from Graham which is priced away from the rest of the pack. I have tried the F85 twice recently and was a little underwhelmed on both occasions but the power and complexity is there. Thus, the purchase was based on the hope that the wine will emerge from a T85 like dumb phase in a few years.

Apart from that, what has happened to the price of T97? Why the sudden price hike?

Picked up a few more 2011's on a trip to the states. 6 Vesuvio, 9 Fonseca, and 9 Taylors. Starting a port collection is a daunting task! TIme to back off and just look for deals now.

PopulusTremula wrote:Apart from that, what has happened to the price of T97? Why the sudden price hike?

Not much has happened to the price of T97 as far as i can see...I paid £225ib for a 6-pack a few years ago and it still seems to be available on the UK retail market by the case for about the same.

BBR have had some listed at a very high price for quite a while now (and that tends to lead a few other merchants to price similarly), but i don't think it is indicative of the wider "market" price if you decide you do want some!

Among other odds and sods I have recently come across a 1944 Royal Porto Colheita. Love the sparkly letters

- Fonseca 1997 VP x 1
- Smith Woodhouse 2000 VP x 2
- Cálem 1970 VP x 4

Three bottles each of Offley Boa Vista '80 and '83. Mini vertical anyone?

Back on the topic of T97, i definitely think there has been an upward creep in prices. FRW quotes in line w BBR and prices on Wine Searcher (non pro) also seem to hover around the same level. Thus, i wonder if this has had some positive reviews lately, in spite of '97 being considered to be generally lackluster.

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