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Re: Latest buy

Post by slateshalehead » 21:37 Mon 23 Nov 2020

Glenn E. wrote:
18:26 Mon 23 Nov 2020
Since I'm here, I just managed to pick up (from auction):

12 x 1985 Smith Woodhouse ($52.50 ea)
2 x 1987 Taylor Vargellas ($93.50 ea)
1 x 1966 Graham ($210)

All good prices for the US (buyer's premium is included above), but probably nothing to brag about in the UK. I've been trying to find TV87 for 10 years since that's our anniversary year, and this is the first time I've been able to actually win.
Nice prices for the US! Out of curiosity, was this an online or on-site auction?

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Re: Latest buy

Post by hadge » 21:43 Mon 23 Nov 2020

AHB wrote:
18:55 Fri 20 Nov 2020
hadge wrote:
23:28 Wed 18 Nov 2020
arrived a couple of days ago from Aldi, with a few LBV's

Fletchers 10 year old 4.5l bottle.jpg
I'm very disappointed you didn't buy a six-pack of the 4.5litre bottles Harry!

Nice looking bottle and a box which my wife would be trying to convert into some sort of bee home before I'd managed to get the bottle out.
haha Alex, I did think of getting a few but ended up with just the one, wasn't sure what the 10 year old would be like.

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Re: Latest buy

Post by Glenn E. » 23:05 Mon 23 Nov 2020

slateshalehead wrote:
21:37 Mon 23 Nov 2020
Glenn E. wrote:
18:26 Mon 23 Nov 2020
Since I'm here, I just managed to pick up (from auction):

12 x 1985 Smith Woodhouse ($52.50 ea)
2 x 1987 Taylor Vargellas ($93.50 ea)
1 x 1966 Graham ($210)

All good prices for the US (buyer's premium is included above), but probably nothing to brag about in the UK. I've been trying to find TV87 for 10 years since that's our anniversary year, and this is the first time I've been able to actually win.
Nice prices for the US! Out of curiosity, was this an online or on-site auction?
Online. I have only ever been to a handful of in-person auctions, and those were all charity events.

I just went back to see what next week's auction looks like (www.winebid.com) and they have several more G66 available now. I doubt that I will bid on those, though... as good as G66 is, it's still fairly pricey to be stocking up on it.
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Re: Latest buy

Post by nac » 23:34 Mon 23 Nov 2020

Glenn E. wrote:
23:05 Mon 23 Nov 2020
slateshalehead wrote:
21:37 Mon 23 Nov 2020
Glenn E. wrote:
18:26 Mon 23 Nov 2020
Since I'm here, I just managed to pick up (from auction):

12 x 1985 Smith Woodhouse ($52.50 ea)
2 x 1987 Taylor Vargellas ($93.50 ea)
1 x 1966 Graham ($210)

All good prices for the US (buyer's premium is included above), but probably nothing to brag about in the UK. I've been trying to find TV87 for 10 years since that's our anniversary year, and this is the first time I've been able to actually win.
Nice prices for the US! Out of curiosity, was this an online or on-site auction?
Online. I have only ever been to a handful of in-person auctions, and those were all charity events.

I just went back to see what next week's auction looks like (www.winebid.com) and they have several more G66 available now. I doubt that I will bid on those, though... as good as G66 is, it's still fairly pricey to be stocking up on it.
Corney & Barrow have a largish stock of bottles of G66 at £180 each retail. If we ignore the expected auction vs retail difference then maybe $210 doesn’t seem too pricey and not wildly different from the UK?

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Re: Latest buy

Post by Glenn E. » 00:09 Tue 24 Nov 2020

nac wrote:
23:34 Mon 23 Nov 2020
Corney & Barrow have a largish stock of bottles of G66 at £180 each retail. If we ignore the expected auction vs retail difference then maybe $210 doesn’t seem too pricey and not wildly different from the UK?
Oh, I think $210 (which is $180 + buyer's premium) is actually quite a good price for G66. It's just sufficiently high that I can't really afford to buy too many of them.

There were 12 x T55 available last week at $405 each which - for something that old - is a screaming deal. But I didn't buy any because no matter how good the deal, $405 +17% is still a lot of money for 1 bottle of wine. FWIW there are still 8 of them left in this week's auction.

The N31 didn't sell at $3460, either. In that case it might be a function of the label which is unlike any Noval label I've ever seen.
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Re: Latest buy

Post by Andy Velebil » 05:41 Tue 24 Nov 2020

Some Of those bottles obviously come from
Terrible storage. I looked at them and wouldn’t bid on anyone of those 55’s.

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Re: Latest buy

Post by winesecretary » 17:21 Tue 08 Dec 2020

12 x OBV 1983 at auction (Tate Ward). £400 delivered. I'm very happy with that. I know it's Christmas season but there is a LOT of port up for auction over the next week.

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Re: Latest buy

Post by winesecretary » 20:19 Sat 12 Dec 2020

Some TTF (3 x 1986, 1 x 1988) and TQDV (01) at Straker Chadwick. I paid a full price but TTF 88 in bottle is as rare as hen's teeth and I needed one for the Terra Feita tasting as all I had was a half...

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Re: Latest buy

Post by uncle tom » 12:55 Mon 14 Dec 2020

I paid a full price but TTF 88 in bottle is rare as hen's teeth
You should have asked - I drank my one and only TTF '88 a fortnight ago!
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Re: Latest buy

Post by Doggett » 17:49 Mon 14 Dec 2020

uncle tom wrote:
12:55 Mon 14 Dec 2020
I paid a full price but TTF 88 in bottle is rare as hen's teeth
You should have asked - I drank my one and only TTF '88 a fortnight ago!
I thought you saved the last bottles of ports for the legacy port bottle library!? 😃

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Re: Latest buy

Post by uncle tom » 18:36 Mon 14 Dec 2020

I thought you saved the last bottles of ports for the legacy port bottle library!?
I save the last bottle of each vintage - not the last bottle of every wine
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Re: Latest buy

Post by Doggett » 18:45 Mon 14 Dec 2020

uncle tom wrote:
18:36 Mon 14 Dec 2020
I thought you saved the last bottles of ports for the legacy port bottle library!?
I save the last bottle of each vintage - not the last bottle of every wine
That is... as I should have expected... a much better idea!

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Re: Latest buy

Post by uncle tom » 18:52 Mon 14 Dec 2020

That is... as I should have expected... a much better idea!
Anyway, if you're doing a TTF vertical, I have the '82, '86 & '96 available
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Re: Latest buy

Post by winesecretary » 21:40 Mon 14 Dec 2020

Thank you Tom, much appreciated. I hope we will not need to call on you; now that nac has obtained by grace of AB (& C&B) the otherwise-unobtainable 1991 we have the full set between the likely attendees...

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Re: Latest buy

Post by nac » 11:06 Tue 22 Dec 2020

3 bottles of 1975 Rebello Valente
2 bottles of 1980 Sandeman

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Re: Latest buy

Post by AHB » 14:58 Wed 30 Dec 2020

In an effort to avoid JDAW cornering the market in £9 bottles of Graham 2015 LBV I visited Waitrose this morning and bought the only 4 bottles they had.

I hadn’t realised there was a range of colours of the tubes. I now have red, blue and gold.
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Top Ports in 2020 (so far): Croft 1945 and Niepoort VV (1960s bottling)

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Re: Latest buy

Post by rich_n » 17:01 Wed 30 Dec 2020

Sadly JDAW seems to have more influence in South Bristol than I'd expected and I had no luck finding the 2015 Graham LBV on today's expedition. However I did manage to soften that blow by picking up a 2009 Bomfim and 2x 2015 Cockburn LBV for £40 total, so it wasn't a total loss.

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Re: Latest buy

Post by Jasper May » 17:49 Wed 30 Dec 2020

Fearing a TPF drain on the country's resources, I went online and ordered - to date they have *said* that they will deliver to me ! :)

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Re: Latest buy

Post by JacobH » 11:09 Thu 31 Dec 2020

Jasper May wrote:
17:49 Wed 30 Dec 2020
Fearing a TPF drain on the country's resources, I went online and ordered - to date they have *said* that they will deliver to me ! :)
When I tried to buy some last night, it was marked “out-of-stock” which I presume is the :tpf: effect! Thankfully, it seemed to be available again this morning.
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Re: Latest buy

Post by rich_n » 11:25 Thu 31 Dec 2020

It's a Graham's LBV, I'll be shocked if it's not available until well into the spring, and probably on offer at these kinds of prices again.

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Re: Latest buy

Post by JacobH » 12:47 Thu 31 Dec 2020

That’s a very fair point, although I wonder when they will move to the 2016? I am starting to see some of those releases for sale.
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Re: Latest buy

Post by winesecretary » 00:07 Sun 03 Jan 2021

I suspect, like many others, I have started my 2021 purchasing with (a 3-pack of) Graham 2015 LBV, although I am celebrating that purchase with a Dow 2008 Bomfin.

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Re: Latest buy

Post by rich_n » 12:59 Sun 03 Jan 2021

Waitrose Cellars have stock of the 2015 Grahams LBV and 2015 Sandeman LBV, both on offer (the Sandeman at £12.95 a bottle), so I've purchased some of both to keep me going for the foreseeable future. I'm intrigued to see what the 2016-2018 LBVs offer over the next couple of years.

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Re: Latest buy

Post by uncle tom » 13:21 Sun 03 Jan 2021

I'm intrigued to see what the 2016-2018 LBVs offer over the next couple of years.
I'm looking out for the Niepoort 2016 LBV with interest. 2016 was the year Niepoort had it's big family upset, and Dirk couldn't bring himself to declare a regular VP, only declaring a small amount of Bioma. Officially, it didn't make the grade, but I got the strong impression that wasn't the real reason.

Will the best juice go into the LBV? I'm not sure, but I doubt Dirk is that keen to be reminded of those dark months by having large numbers of casks aging with that year on..
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill

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Post by rich_n » 13:26 Sun 03 Jan 2021

uncle tom wrote:
I'm intrigued to see what the 2016-2018 LBVs offer over the next couple of years.
I'm looking out for the Niepoort 2016 LBV with interest. 2016 was the year Niepoort had it's big family upset, and Dirk couldn't bring himself to declare a regular VP, only declaring a small amount of Bioma. Officially, it didn't make the grade, but I got the strong impression that wasn't the real reason.

Will the best juice go into the LBV? I'm not sure, but I doubt Dirk is that keen to be reminded of those dark months by having large numbers of casks aging with that year on..
That is certainly good to know! The Niepoort LBV seems to be less widely available than some of the bigger houses so I'll have to keep an eye out. Portugal Vineyards was a useful source but I'm unclear on whether that's a possible option for 2021. Thanks for sharing the information!

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