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2017 Declarations
Posted: 21:41 Mon 18 Mar 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
This thread is to hold the details of the Vintage Ports from the 2017 vintage. An asterisk next to the shipper indicates that a tasting note is on TPF for the Port (with a link to the TN).
First to declare (at least the first I have heard officially declare) is Niepoort on March 18th with their official launch event in April.
2017 declared by:
Alves de Souza
- Alves de Souza
- Quinta da Gaivosa
Amavel Costa (silver medal in
2021 DWWA)
Andresen
Barao de Villar
- Barao de Vilar
- Feuerheerd
- Maynard*
Borges, Quinta da Soalheira
Broadbent (Silver medal in
2023 DWWA)
Bulas
C. da Silva
Cadao by Mateus & Sequeira
Churchill
Delaforce
DR from Agri-Roncao
Duorum
Fladgate Partnership
Heritage Porto & Douro
Martha's (1,555 cases)
Niepoort*
Pintas (from Wine & Soul)
Pocas
*
Quevedo
Quinta da Corte
Quinta da Pacheca
Quinta da Prelada
Quinta da Romaneira (1,100 cases)
*
Quinta da Sequeira
Quinta das Lamelas
Quinta das Tecedeiras from Lima Smith (around 100 cases)
Quinta de la Rosa (650 cases)
Quinta de Ventozelo
Quinta do Crasto
Quinta do Infantado
Quinta do Javali
Quinta do Noval
- Quinta do Noval (3,500 cases)*
- Quinta do Noval Nacional (200 cases)*
Quinta do Pego
Quinta do Popa (300 cases)
Quinta do Portal
Quinta do Tedo
Quinta do Tedo Savedra
Quinta do Vale Meao
Quinta do Vallado
Quinta Dona Matilde
Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo (225 cases)
Quinta dos Mattos from Coimbra Mattos / Porto Valriz
Quinta Vale Dona Maria
Ramos Pinto
- Ramos Pinto (750 cases)
- Ramos Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira (750 cases)
Real Companhia Velha
- Quinta das Carvalhas
- Real Companhia Velha
Rozes
Symington Family Estates
Vallegre
Vasques de Carvalho
Vieira de Sousa
Links to other vintages:
2022,
2021,
2020,
2019,
2018,
2017,
2016,
2015,
2014,
2013,
2012,
2011,
2010,
2009,
2008,
2007,
2006,
2005
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 07:37 Tue 09 Apr 2019
by Axel P
2017 is going to be great (again):
https://youtu.be/gpCDjtBivwo
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 09:56 Tue 09 Apr 2019
by DRT
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 10:21 Tue 09 Apr 2019
by CPR 1
Interesting generally smaller volumes from the Symington Family but significantly more of the Stone Terraces and Capela but no Smith Woodhouse
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 11:17 Tue 09 Apr 2019
by Axel P
Noval as well with both, the regular Noval and the Nacional:
- Noval Nacional.jpg (48.12 KiB) Viewed 25770 times
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 12:18 Tue 09 Apr 2019
by DRT
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 13:14 Tue 09 Apr 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
At the
Big Fortified Tasting a number of producers are showing finished blends or cask samples of 2017 Vintage Ports. These are:
Quevedo
Quinta da Sequeira
Quinta do Vallado Adelaide
Ramos Pinto
Ramos Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 21:37 Tue 09 Apr 2019
by jdaw1
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 22:24 Tue 09 Apr 2019
by idj123
Cripes-iit looks like my intention not to buy any new vintages may have gone out the window although the apparent demise of SW is disappointing and removes the last tier 2 Port from the SFE portfolio.
Re: RE: Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 03:40 Wed 10 Apr 2019
by Glenn E.
CPR 1 wrote:Interesting generally smaller volumes from the Symington Family but significantly more of the Stone Terraces and Capela but no Smith Woodhouse
Sell 1 bottle at normal price, or sell 1 bottle at 2x to 3x normal price?
Hopefully it won't adversely affect the quality of the regular Graham and Vesuvio to have such a significantly different ratio.
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 14:10 Wed 10 Apr 2019
by DRT
The Dow 2017 data sheet is the only other to mention format quantities, being 5,250 cases, including 240 magnums and 200 Tappit Hens.
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 13:21 Thu 11 Apr 2019
by /2alph
Ramos Pinto declared as well
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 20:41 Mon 15 Apr 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
Just popped in a link to Ramos Pinto’s declaration announcement.
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 09:29 Wed 17 Apr 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
Those of you who were at the b.f.t. yesterday, please could you post your thoughts and impressions of the 2017 Ports that were at the show. The producers who exhibited them are keen for knowledgeable Port afficiandos to create some internet presence for their wines.
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 10:26 Tue 23 Apr 2019
by akzy
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 23:08 Fri 03 May 2019
by Tadhg555
Have the frequency of vintage declarations increased over the recent decades? If so, what is the cause? Better technology and more efficient methods? Or am I suffering from recency bias?
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 02:46 Tue 07 May 2019
by Glenn E.
General declarations in reverse order:
2017, 2016, 2011, 2007, 2003, 2000, 1997, 1994, (1991/1992), 1985, 1983, 1980, 1977, 1975, 1970, 1966, 1963, 1960...
As you can see, there have been roughly 3 general declarations per decade for at least the last 50 years. (1991/1992 was what is known as a split declaration, where roughly half of the producers declared in 1991 and the other half declared in 1992.) Prior to that general declarations were only slightly less common with the 1950s being the oddball during which only 1955 was generally declared.
That said, what has changed relatively recently is the number of producers. Producers are no longer required to maintain a lodge in Vila Nova de Gaia, so many more companies now declare and release Vintage Port on their own schedules without regard for the concept of a "general declaration." So even in a year like 2015 that wasn't officially a general declaration, there were a large number of smaller producers who declared their Vintage Port anyway.
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 04:31 Tue 07 May 2019
by Andy Velebil
Glenn E. wrote: ↑02:46 Tue 07 May 2019
General declarations in reverse order:
2017, 2016, 2011, 2007, 2003, 2000, 1997, 1994, (1991/1992), 1985, 1983, 1980, 1977, 1975, 1970, 1966, 1963, 1960...
As you can see, there have been roughly 3 general declarations per decade for at least the last 50 years. (1991/1992 was what is known as a split declaration, where roughly half of the producers declared in 1991 and the other half declared in 1992.) Prior to that general declarations were only slightly less common with the 1950s being the oddball during which only 1955 was generally declared.
That said, what
has changed relatively recently is the number of producers. Producers are no longer required to maintain a lodge in Vila Nova de Gaia, so many more companies now declare and release Vintage Port on their own schedules without regard for the concept of a "general declaration." So even in a year like 2015 that wasn't officially a general declaration, there were a large number of smaller producers who declared their Vintage Port anyway.
+1
Plus the addition of lots of SQVP's in the between years from the larger companies does make it appear there are far more declarations. In reality it has been pretty consistent of about 3 times a decade with those larger companies.
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 01:25 Sun 12 May 2019
by DRT
Tadhg555 wrote: ↑23:08 Fri 03 May 2019
Have the frequency of vintage declarations increased over the recent decades? If so, what is the cause? Better technology and more efficient methods? Or am I suffering from recency bias?
What Glenn and Andy said, and don't expect a 2018 or 2019 declaration
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 18:36 Wed 15 May 2019
by Tadhg555
Sounds good. I just hope my sons grow to love port!
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 21:22 Wed 15 May 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
I was advised a few days ago that Casa Santa Eufemia will not be offering a 2017 Vintage Port.
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 21:20 Fri 17 May 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
La Rosa added to the declaration list after receiving an offer from BB&R
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 13:59 Mon 20 May 2019
by Axel P
Sogrape only with 2 Single Quintas...
For the first time ever in a general declared year. (?).
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 11:03 Tue 21 May 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
Added Bulas after a chat with them yesterday, although it will probably be a late release.
Added Feuerheerd after a mailshot from Farr Vintners
Re: 2017 Declarations
Posted: 05:49 Wed 22 May 2019
by RonnieRoots
Axel P wrote: ↑13:59 Mon 20 May 2019
Sogrape only with 2 Single Quintas...
For the first time ever in a general declared year. (?).
Do you know the reason for this? Did they not get the quality they wanted or a commercial reason?