Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

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Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

Post by WS1 » 13:15 Fri 06 Apr 2018

Hi,

bought this Magnum quite a few years back and always wondered if it is genuine or fake. First was real Crusted Malvedos ever made? Bt looks genuine from the era and despite slightly glui wax level is still just i.n. and fine, bright clear red color.
If anyone has any further ideas or information please let me know.
Obviously 60 years on it may be time to drink it. :lol: Am sure we will find an occasion...

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Re: Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

Post by benread » 16:09 Fri 06 Apr 2018

Wolfgang, I’m not sure what you paid for it but I wonder if a bottle like this would be worth the trouble of faking? Or has the scrutiny of more valuable wines pushed fakers into new markets?

I don’t know the answer to either question but if you choose to open it with TPF friends I’d love to be there! Malvedos is one of my favourite ports.


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Re: Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

Post by AHB » 16:42 Fri 06 Apr 2018

It looks real to me and I am certain that a "crusted" port was made from the 1958 vintage - this is actually a proper vintage port.
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Re: Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

Post by PhilW » 18:12 Fri 06 Apr 2018

I'm sure I've seen at least one other crusted from Graham or Malvedos with a very similar label, though I can't find a picture of it immediately; it may be in my (somewhat overdue) pending pile to add to the VPID. Looks genuine to me, and indeed looks like a '58 Malvedos bottled in '60, which assuming it was not declared and therefore had to be sold marked as crusted, but the labeling cleverly making it very obvious to be a vintage really. Very interesting, and hopefully delicious!

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Re: Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

Post by uncle tom » 08:52 Sat 07 Apr 2018

In Graham's pre-Symington days, one of their idiosyncrasies was to label their Malvedos SQ wines as 'Crusted' rather than 'Vintage'.

The bottle looks entirely kosher to me. If it was mine, I'd give those capsule remnants a visit to the wax pot..
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Re: Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

Post by DRT » 19:51 Sat 14 Apr 2018

It looks genuine to me.

A little known fact is that in the early days of the use of the brand "Malvedos" the wines didn't come from the quinta - they were from vineyards in the Torto valley. This is probably from that era.
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Post by Axel P » 09:52 Sun 15 Apr 2018

Dont open this without me, please...
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Re: Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

Post by Andy Velebil » 11:19 Mon 16 Apr 2018

DRT wrote:
19:51 Sat 14 Apr 2018
It looks genuine to me.

A little known fact is that in the early days of the use of the brand "Malvedos" the wines didn't come from the quinta - they were from vineyards in the Torto valley. This is probably from that era.
And many of the grapes came from a number of adjacent vineyards which were not actually part of the Quinta back then. Over time those neighbors have been bought and incorporated into the Quinta as it is known now. That is also why in the later 1990's the label finally changed to full Quinta D. Malvedos name. It was only during this mid-1990's that all the grapes finally came from the Quinta.

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Re: Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

Post by SFE » 10:10 Wed 18 Apr 2018

Hi WS1,

1958 was declared by some but not all major Port Shippers. It was a good year that produced fragrant wines of great finesse.
Graham’s did indeed produce Malvedos Crusted 1958 (from the image your bottle looks absolutely genuine - see ours below) and we still have 10 dozen of this marvellous Port here in our cellar. As indicated, at the time Graham’s used the Malvedos Crusted designation for genuine 2-year bottlings.

It is correct that in those days Graham’s sourced their wines from both Quinta dos Malvedos and Quinta das Lages in the Rio Torto Valley amongst other properties. Malvedos was effectively a brand of Graham’s.

When we acquired Graham’s and re-launched Malvedos we continued to use it as a brand because the grapes came from the quinta and the area surrounding the Malvedos property. In the mid 1990’s, after having acquired a significant number of adjoining vineyards, the expanded Malvedos supplied all the necessary grapes and hence the change to Quinta dos Malvedos.

We certainly hope you enjoy the wine when you do find an occasion to open the bottle.


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Post by Andy Velebil » 16:10 Wed 18 Apr 2018

Many thanks SFE for the info.

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Re: Crusted Port Wine Malvedos 1958 in Magnum format

Post by jdaw1 » 22:27 Mon 04 Jun 2018

SFE wrote:
10:10 Wed 18 Apr 2018
1958 was declared by some but not all major Port Shippers. It was a good year that produced fragrant wines of great finesse.
Graham’s did indeed produce Malvedos Crusted 1958 (from the image your bottle looks absolutely genuine - see ours below) and we still have 10 dozen of this marvellous Port here in our cellar. As indicated, at the time Graham’s used the Malvedos Crusted designation for genuine 2-year bottlings.

It is correct that in those days Graham’s sourced their wines from both Quinta dos Malvedos and Quinta das Lages in the Rio Torto Valley amongst other properties. Malvedos was effectively a brand of Graham’s.

When we acquired Graham’s and re-launched Malvedos we continued to use it as a brand because the grapes came from the quinta and the area surrounding the Malvedos property. In the mid 1990’s, after having acquired a significant number of adjoining vineyards, the expanded Malvedos supplied all the necessary grapes and hence the change to Quinta dos Malvedos.
Thank you for this. Definitive comment from the definitive source is really welcome.

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