Mystery bottle of ruby port
Mystery bottle of ruby port
Well here's a strange one for everyone,
I was clearing out my grandfathers old garage last weekend and I found a few very interesting items, one of which was a mysterious bottles of Choice ruby Port for the Christopher and Company Ltd wine merchants, the strange thing is is that business went under on the mid 80s which too is that it is at least 30 years old.. however we then noticed that on the label that the measurements were in fluid onces and anyone from the Uk will know that we went metric in 1965 haha.. which dates it to at least 52 years old, this annoying thing is though I cannot find any information anywhere on the brewery or the merchant other than a small article on a whiskey discussion page about when the merchant open and when it went out of business,
So really I'm asking if anyone has any information at all about this port and or Christopher and Co.
thanks
Cory V.
I was clearing out my grandfathers old garage last weekend and I found a few very interesting items, one of which was a mysterious bottles of Choice ruby Port for the Christopher and Company Ltd wine merchants, the strange thing is is that business went under on the mid 80s which too is that it is at least 30 years old.. however we then noticed that on the label that the measurements were in fluid onces and anyone from the Uk will know that we went metric in 1965 haha.. which dates it to at least 52 years old, this annoying thing is though I cannot find any information anywhere on the brewery or the merchant other than a small article on a whiskey discussion page about when the merchant open and when it went out of business,
So really I'm asking if anyone has any information at all about this port and or Christopher and Co.
thanks
Cory V.
Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
Hi Cory,
Christopher & Co. were a prominent UK wine merchant in the 19th and 20th century and bottle Port produced by many different producers.
What you have is a very old bottle of very basic Port. Ruby Port can be purchased from around £8-£12 per bottle today and it is a style that is not designed to be aged. The vast majority of Ruby Port produced is probably drunk within a year or two of bottling. The decades are unlikely to have been kind to your Grandfather's bottle, particularly as it has been stored in a garage where the temperature will have fluctuated hugely over the years.
The bottle has no significant financial value (perhaps £10?) so I would suggest you open it and raise a glass to your grandfather with some friends and family.
Cheers
Derek
Christopher & Co. were a prominent UK wine merchant in the 19th and 20th century and bottle Port produced by many different producers.
What you have is a very old bottle of very basic Port. Ruby Port can be purchased from around £8-£12 per bottle today and it is a style that is not designed to be aged. The vast majority of Ruby Port produced is probably drunk within a year or two of bottling. The decades are unlikely to have been kind to your Grandfather's bottle, particularly as it has been stored in a garage where the temperature will have fluctuated hugely over the years.
The bottle has no significant financial value (perhaps £10?) so I would suggest you open it and raise a glass to your grandfather with some friends and family.
Cheers
Derek
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Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
Hi Derek,
Thank you very much for your reply and the information you have given me, that's one mystery down from the long list of unanswered questions about my grandfather haha,
I shall indeed open it up and raise a glass, I might even post some tasting notes considering it's age and my curiosity!
Thanks,
Cory
Thank you very much for your reply and the information you have given me, that's one mystery down from the long list of unanswered questions about my grandfather haha,
I shall indeed open it up and raise a glass, I might even post some tasting notes considering it's age and my curiosity!
Thanks,
Cory
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Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
Cory,
You should find that the contents of the bottle taste a little like barley-water — sweet, a little bland but with a grapefruit or green apple acidity that stops it from being totally unpleasant. As Derek says, these styles of port are not made to be aged in the bottle but rarely do they turn into something undrinkable.
Alex
You should find that the contents of the bottle taste a little like barley-water — sweet, a little bland but with a grapefruit or green apple acidity that stops it from being totally unpleasant. As Derek says, these styles of port are not made to be aged in the bottle but rarely do they turn into something undrinkable.
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
Thanks Alex,
I plan on opening the bottle tomorrow night so hopefully it'll be alright
I plan on opening the bottle tomorrow night so hopefully it'll be alright
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Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
If you took any pictures, please post them or share your thoughts and comments with the rest of folks who read the forum.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
Hi Everyone,
I haven't opened it quite yet but I have got some pictures to share, We also found fairly resent bottle of Royal Oporto, Ruby Porto in the garage that I have been thoroughly enjoying tucking into very nice port for a cheap price.
Furthermore on the the Christopher and Co. bottle would you recommend decanting it first due to the significant amount of sediment?
Thanks again,
Cory
I haven't opened it quite yet but I have got some pictures to share, We also found fairly resent bottle of Royal Oporto, Ruby Porto in the garage that I have been thoroughly enjoying tucking into very nice port for a cheap price.
Furthermore on the the Christopher and Co. bottle would you recommend decanting it first due to the significant amount of sediment?
Thanks again,
Cory
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Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
Yes. Either stand it upright and undisturbed for 24 hours to let the sediment settle, and then pour the wine off the sediment in one go, stopping when the first sediment appears in the neck, or stick some clean cheesecloth, surgical gauze or coffee filter paper into a clean funnel and pour the whole lot through. I personally use surgical gauze squares which are very cheap to buy - but everyone here has their own preferred method..would you recommend decanting it first due to the significant amount of sediment?
Enjoy!
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Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
Perfect! Thank you very much I shall get my decanter cleaned and ready haha
Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
Hi everyone,
Sorry for not giving an update in a while work has been hectic haha, I have since opened the port and as expected it did not look like a ruby and more like a tawny, the taste is mildly apple like with other mild notes that I still can't quite grasp with my lack of experience:( but it is very pleasant.
Just thought I'd updat everyone haha,
Cory,
Sorry for not giving an update in a while work has been hectic haha, I have since opened the port and as expected it did not look like a ruby and more like a tawny, the taste is mildly apple like with other mild notes that I still can't quite grasp with my lack of experience:( but it is very pleasant.
Just thought I'd updat everyone haha,
Cory,
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Re: Mystery bottle of ruby port
Thanks for letting us know. From the photo you posted it did look as though the colour had significantly faded (perhaps unsurprising given age and storage of a basic ruby), so am not surprised that the taste was slim. I did like the label though; would you mind if I added it to the VPID? (image database for vintage port bottles/labels/capsules)? I don't often add non-vintage, but like the label enough to include it if ok with you.