UK Government Cellar List

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UK Government Cellar List

Post by Andy Velebil » 21:05 Wed 31 May 2017

I think JDAW has been trying to get this list. Doesn't have number of bottles but does say what they have. Scroll down toward bottom for the Ports. Some of those they need to drink sooner rather than later. And they got 1931 Noval :)

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... sv/preview


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Post by Andy Velebil » 21:59 Wed 31 May 2017

And this shows what they consumed. A lot of 1977 and 1983 Warre's VP.
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Post by AHB » 13:52 Thu 01 Jun 2017

Well that's entertained me over my lunch break! These are the wine cellars of the government for use in delivering business hospitality for all government ministers and departments.

There are also transparency uploads for 2014-15 and 2013-14 available.

Now for a bit of work to see if I can back-calculate what they might have started off with...
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Post by AHB » 14:06 Thu 01 Jun 2017

Someone in government's been reading the pointless statistics thread. Just read on the 2014-15 link above:
  • The Government Hospitality wine cellar contains 34,052 bottles of wines and spirits
  • Total cost value of stock £818,977. (cf. 13/14 £824,406)
  • Estimated market value of stock £3.108m (cf. £3.101m 13/14 )
  • Consumption rose by just under 15%.
  • Bottles used : 5,516 (cf. 4,800 in 13/14)
  • Bottles of English and Welsh wine used : 2,414 (including reception wines) = 44 % of total
  • Cost of used stock : £69,433
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Post by DRT » 14:36 Thu 01 Jun 2017

Interestingly, they store lots of Burgandy, but drink lots of Burgundy :roll:
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Post by AHB » 14:58 Thu 01 Jun 2017

DRT wrote:
14:36 Thu 01 Jun 2017
Interestingly, they store lots of Burgandy, but drink lots of Burgundy :roll:
Pedunt.
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Post by Andy Velebil » 15:22 Thu 01 Jun 2017

AHB wrote:
14:58 Thu 01 Jun 2017
DRT wrote:
14:36 Thu 01 Jun 2017
Interestingly, they store lots of Burgandy, but drink lots of Burgundy :roll:
Pedunt.
:lol: :lol: I saw that too. Figured I'd let our resident grammar-slammer deal with it. I expect a properly worded email to be sent off.

They do drink a lot of inexpensive receptions wines. I wonder how many old bottles of Port they have.

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Post by uncle tom » 10:43 Fri 02 Jun 2017

Curious that they have no port between 1948 and 1977 and nothing since 2000

I would happily swap some bottles of Dow '77 (Graded A1) for some of their Graham '35 (merely graded A)

Is this cellar run by someone who knows something about wine? - or some unknown buggins from the department for straightening paperclips..
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Post by Andy Velebil » 18:29 Fri 02 Jun 2017

Anyone know what their grading scale means? What's "U"?


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Post by DRT » 02:11 Sun 04 Jun 2017

uncle tom wrote:
10:43 Fri 02 Jun 2017
Is this cellar run by someone who knows something about wine? - or some unknown buggins from the department for straightening paperclips..
Having been a Civil Servant for two decades (two decades ago) I suspect their wine supplier (BBR?) provides expert advice at huge cost to the tax payer and then some jobsworth with a spreadsheet and a qualification in buying wine from Aldi uses his expertise to refine that advice and make bad decisions.

When the Beast of Bolsover finally retires I might put myself forward as MP for my constituency simply to get my hands on those pre-50s bottles :twisted:
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Post by AHB » 07:07 Sun 04 Jun 2017

DRT wrote:
02:11 Sun 04 Jun 2017
uncle tom wrote:
10:43 Fri 02 Jun 2017
Is this cellar run by someone who knows something about wine? - or some unknown buggins from the department for straightening paperclips..
Having been a Civil Servant for two decades (two decades ago) I suspect their wine supplier (BBR?) provides expert advice at huge cost to the tax payer and then some jobsworth with a spreadsheet and a qualification in buying wine from Aldi uses his expertise to refine that advice and make bad decisions.

When the Beast of Bolsover finally retires I might put myself forward as MP for my constituency simply to get my hands on those pre-50s bottles :twisted:
According to the papers filed by the Home Office, the cellar is overseen by a committee of three masters of wine under the chairmanship of Sir David Wright, a former ambassador. None are paid for their work on the committee. The objective of the cellar is to supply wines to government functions and to sell sufficient stock onto the open market (through Christie's) to cover the costs of purchases made during the year. For example, in 2015-16 the cellar sales included 36 bottles of Graham 1983 and 24 bottles of Warre 1985. From what they publish, it seems this objective has been met in each of the last 4 years for which papers have been made public. In 2015-16 the committee spent £40,177 on new stock and raised £40,390 from sales of existing holdings.
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Post by uncle tom » 09:33 Sun 04 Jun 2017

I think they would get much better prices at Christies if they allowed the catalogue to say where the bottles had come from..
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Post by AHB » 19:01 Sun 04 Jun 2017

uncle tom wrote:
09:33 Sun 04 Jun 2017
I think they would get much better prices at Christies if they allowed the catalogue to say where the bottles had come from..
I completely agree.
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Post by Axel P » 11:12 Tue 06 Jun 2017

Well, someone should get in touch with the folks and get us a visit.. Then we can supply some help with whatever advice they need.
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