differing labels on feist port bottle

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differing labels on feist port bottle

Post by philfy » 11:01 Thu 26 Jan 2017

Hello,
I was hoping someone may be able to give me some information on a bottle of port.
I bought this 1937 bottle of Feist Porto for my Dad's 80th birthday, it was bought from a reputable auction site.
Having looked online for information I noticed that all the other bottles shown have the same style of handwritten painted label on the bottle.
My bottle seems to have a much more "flamboyant" style of writing. I don't seem to be able to find any images of this particular style and was wondering if someone may be able to shed some light on why it is different to all other images to be found.
The capsule/bottle looks authentic , so I'm pretty sure it's not a fake, just wanted some more info. to
talk about with my Dad when we are drinking it.
Many thanks in advance
Cheers
phil

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Re: differing labels on feist port bottle

Post by DRT » 12:56 Thu 26 Jan 2017

Hi Phil,

can you please post some pictures of the bottle?

Thanks
Derek
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Re: differing labels on feist port bottle

Post by philfy » 17:55 Thu 26 Jan 2017

sorry I thought they were attached,
here they are again
cheers
Phil
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Re: differing labels on feist port bottle

Post by DRT » 18:34 Thu 26 Jan 2017

I am quite sure I have seen that style of capsule before but not that style of stenciling. The use of the word "CUVEE" on a bottle of Port seems odd to me but given that it is described as PORTO it could well have been bottled for the European market where the use of cuvee would perhaps be more normal.

Is there a bottling date anywhere on the bottle?
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Re: differing labels on feist port bottle

Post by philfy » 20:02 Thu 26 Jan 2017

Hi DRT,
the only other information is on the bottom of the bottle, SB 1091, embossed into the glass, during manufacturing I presume.
I read that port can be bottled in different countries but sent from the producer in barrels?
Maybe the bottler decided to keep the Feist "style" but add a little extra "style" to his bottles.

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Re: differing labels on feist port bottle

Post by PhilW » 08:17 Fri 27 Jan 2017

The capsule looks genuine; the bottle shape is quite unusual. Perhaps the "flamboyant" style is a consequence of someone taking a stencil designed for a straight upright bottle and trying to use it on this one with sides that slope inwards?

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Re: differing labels on feist port bottle

Post by philfy » 18:35 Fri 27 Jan 2017

Hi PhilW,
I can find other dumpy bottles of feist with the the sloping sides, as this link shows.https://www.jahrhundertweine.de/shpSR.p ... 257&p2=531

it's the way the text on my bottle is overlapping, it looks on purpose with the top line underneath the middle line and the 3rd line overlapping the middle, with the "7" in 1937, just on the edge of the 1st "E". Nice bit of styling I think.
thank you for your comments.
cheers
phil

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Re: differing labels on feist port bottle

Post by forest26 » 22:06 Mon 30 Jan 2017

Hi

I have seen the term Cuvée used on old bottles of Tawny/colheita destined for the French market. I believe in this case cuvee refers to 'barrel'.

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Re: differing labels on feist port bottle

Post by DRT » 02:20 Tue 31 Jan 2017

forest26 wrote:
22:06 Mon 30 Jan 2017
Hi

I have seen the term Cuvée used on old bottles of Tawny/colheita destined for the French market. I believe in this case cuvee refers to 'barrel'.
Good to know :wink:
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