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The Port Forum Port Bucket List

Post by AHB » 21:46 Fri 06 Jan 2017

Everyone and anyone is invited to use this thread to nominate a bottle or few which they would really, really like to try at some point in the future. You never know, perhaps someone here has the chance to make your wish come true. Don't be shy about nominating anything, but don't go overboard with a long laundry list - you can always make a second post (or third, or fourth...) once your bucket list has been achieved.

And to start things off, here's mine:
- a good bottle of Smith Woodhouse 1963 vintage port
- any other 1963 vintage port I've not tried yet (anyone want the list?)
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Post by Doggett » 22:23 Fri 06 Jan 2017

A starter for you... The first because I want to try all the shippers that produced my birth year vintage of 1972 and this one the most. So far the ones I have tasted include just TV, FG and a truely marvellous bottle of OBV that Derek was kind enough to share. The second because I have read some marvellous tasting notes, and heard some lyrical reviews of what is a port that is realistically possible to taste at some point, rather than opt for a perfect magnum of Noval Nacional 1963 from the Quinta cellars I may not be fortunate enough to come across. The third because I love my Tawnies and have been lucky enough to have a glass of Taylor's Scion, try a Sandemans Cask33 and have a number of other premium release aged Tawnies...but I would very much like to try the Graham's Ne Oublie.

SCD's Bucket List

1. Dow 1972 VP
2. Niepoort 1945 VP
3. Graham's Ne Oublie 1882 Wood aged Tawny

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Post by jdaw1 » 15:11 Sat 07 Jan 2017

AHB wrote:(anyone want the list?)
Post it anyway, for the reasons you gave.

Dow 1878.

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Post by DRT » 19:20 Sat 07 Jan 2017

jdaw1 wrote:Dow 1878.
+1

Which was the 19th century Croft that was declared but "suspected" to be wine from the previous generally declared vintage? 1869?

I want to taste that one.

If only there was a book available where one could find answers to such questions :roll:
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Post by jdaw1 » 20:03 Sat 07 Jan 2017

If only.

From memory, reported that the grapes were 1868, but for reasons of stubbornness marketed as 1869 (perhaps also Martinez '69). But both years of Croft were seen at auction.

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Post by AHB » 00:35 Sun 08 Jan 2017

jdaw1 wrote:Dow 1878.
Care to say why?
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Post by AHB » 00:36 Sun 08 Jan 2017

Doggett wrote:A starter for you... The first because I want to try all the shippers that produced my birth year vintage of 1972 and this one the most. So far the ones I have tasted include just TV, FG and a truely marvellous bottle of OBV that Derek was kind enough to share. The second because I have read some marvellous tasting notes, and heard some lyrical reviews of what is a port that is realistically possible to taste at some point, rather than opt for a perfect magnum of Noval Nacional 1963 from the Quinta cellars I may not be fortunate enough to come across. The third because I love my Tawnies and have been lucky enough to have a glass of Taylor's Scion, try a Sandemans Cask33 and have a number of other premium release aged Tawnies...but I would very much like to try the Graham's Ne Oublie.

SCD's Bucket List

1. Dow 1972 VP
2. Niepoort 1945 VP
3. Graham's Ne Oublie 1882 Wood aged Tawny
Nice explanations, which made for interesting reading.

I have no Ne Oublie in my cellar, but I believe that you can buy it by the glass at the Lodge / Vinum restaurant...
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Post by LGTrotter » 01:52 Sun 08 Jan 2017

jdaw1 wrote:From memory, reported that the grapes were 1868, but for reasons of stubbornness marketed as 1869 (perhaps also Martinez '69). But both years of Croft were seen at auction.
I might reference one J Wiseman;
jdaw1 wrote:
Doggett wrote:HENRY. Cockburn '69.
Sixty-nine?! Faked by Croft; produced by none other (I scorn your sole reference to Martinez.)
Found when just about to add to the "Port and literature" thread.

Anyway, I hope the following counts as bucket list material; I would love a case of Fonseca 77 to sip gradually through the years. Just because it is a masterpiece. The other bucket list port which springs to mind I own already, Cockburn 77. I always wanted to try one but never thought I would get the opportunity. God bless the Symingtons. All I have to do now is wait a few years for the new corks to settle down.

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Post by Andy Velebil » 11:34 Sun 08 Jan 2017

1963 Smith Woodhouse as well. Simply as it's probably the only major classically declared VP I've not had from the past 53 years (those regarded as top notch producers that is). And it's one I've never seen come up for sale and I've never seen a bottle of it. Unicorn, it is.

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Post by DRT » 12:00 Sun 08 Jan 2017

I just had a quick search for SW63 in all of the usual places. The only hit I found was that one member of the CellarTracker community has one listed in their stock. As I am not registered with CT I cannot hunt him down. Do we have any members here with advanced training on forensic investigation and detection?
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Post by Andy Velebil » 19:46 Sun 08 Jan 2017

DRT wrote:I just had a quick search for SW63 in all of the usual places. The only hit I found was that one member of the CellarTracker community has one listed in their stock. As I am not registered with CT I cannot hunt him down. Do we have any members here with advanced training on forensic investigation and detection?
I'll work on it. Thanks for the heads up. :)


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Post by idj123 » 20:42 Sun 08 Jan 2017

I could list Ports from the 19th century but hopefully more realistically, the following (two from the same house and two from the same year):

Ni70 (slightly surprising that I don't believe I have tasted this)
Ni55
F27
Ck27

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Post by PhilW » 14:56 Mon 09 Jan 2017

Very difficult to keep this as a short list, as there are so many ports out there I would love to experience. Apologies if a touch long, but the following would be the wines I would most love to one day have tried, including younger more likely possibilities as well as older unlikely ones.

PW's Port Bucket List
Av63 - preferably alongside the component wines
Ni55 - perhaps this might happen at the 55s tasting in 2017
NN63 - one day I would love to try this (along with NN55 and NN70 in particular too).
F27 & W27 - my two favourite houses (though I would love to try Ni27 and S27 particularly also).
Ck1908 - as the '12 was so good, and having never tried the '08 vintage of which this is reputedly the star.
Cr1869 - because of the interesting story, birth year reasons, and to try an 1868 as one of the best years of the 19th century
W1851 - just because
?1815 - as one of the first years of port as we know it, and its historic connections.

If I had to reduce this, it would be to F27, W27 and NN63 - so perhaps that is my true current bucket list.

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Post by uncle tom » 11:00 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Would love to do a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912

As for Dow '72, I can easily spare a bottle..
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Post by Alex M » 15:37 Fri 13 Jan 2017

A fairly simple one without wanting to go 'overboard'.

T1970 vs TQdV1970

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Post by jdaw1 » 23:10 Fri 13 Jan 2017

uncle tom wrote:Would love to do a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912
I am available that day.

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Post by AHB » 00:18 Sat 14 Jan 2017

jdaw1 wrote:
uncle tom wrote:Would love to do a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912
I am available that day.
Even if the day is 1st April?
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Post by jdaw1 » 00:57 Sat 14 Jan 2017

AHB wrote:Even if the day is 1st April?
I could get permission for a Saturday tasting. Could you?

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Post by AHB » 01:06 Sat 14 Jan 2017

jdaw1 wrote:
AHB wrote:Even if the day is 1st April?
I could get permission for a Saturday tasting. Could you?
Whether it's a Saturday or not depends on which year the tasting is held. And if it was on a Saturday perhaps I could host it - that's what I had to do last time I got permission for a Saturday tasting in October 2013.
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Post by jdaw1 » 12:49 Sat 14 Jan 2017

Thank you.

Julian Wiseman accepts the kind invitation of Alex Bridgeman to a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912, on Saturday 1st April 2016.

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Post by PhilW » 14:19 Sat 14 Jan 2017

jdaw1 wrote:Thank you.

Julian Wiseman accepts the kind invitation of Alex Bridgeman to a matrix tasting of the principal shippers 1896/1900/1904/1908/1912, on Saturday 1st April 2016.

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Now if only you could go back in time to attend it.

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Post by jdaw1 » 16:43 Sat 14 Jan 2017

That'll teach me to use Tapatalk. Damn!

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Post by AHB » 13:41 Thu 04 May 2017

LGTrotter wrote:
01:52 Sun 08 Jan 2017
The other bucket list port which springs to mind I own already, Cockburn 77. I always wanted to try one but never thought I would get the opportunity. God bless the Symingtons. All I have to do now is wait a few years for the new corks to settle down.
They seem to have done so. CMAG and I shared a bottle from the bicentenary released last night and it was delicious - elegant and mature, just the way I like my port.
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Post by DRT » 13:49 Thu 04 May 2017

AHB wrote:
13:41 Thu 04 May 2017
LGTrotter wrote:
01:52 Sun 08 Jan 2017
The other bucket list port which springs to mind I own already, Cockburn 77. I always wanted to try one but never thought I would get the opportunity. God bless the Symingtons. All I have to do now is wait a few years for the new corks to settle down.
They seem to have done so. CMAG and I shared a bottle from the bicentenary released last night and it was delicious - elegant and mature, just the way I like my port.
I am was available and in London that evening :(
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Post by AHB » 09:07 Fri 05 May 2017

DRT wrote:
13:49 Thu 04 May 2017
AHB wrote:
13:41 Thu 04 May 2017
LGTrotter wrote:
01:52 Sun 08 Jan 2017
The other bucket list port which springs to mind I own already, Cockburn 77. I always wanted to try one but never thought I would get the opportunity. God bless the Symingtons. All I have to do now is wait a few years for the new corks to settle down.
They seem to have done so. CMAG and I shared a bottle from the bicentenary released last night and it was delicious - elegant and mature, just the way I like my port.
I am was available and in London that evening :(
If only we had known! We were even talking about how rarely you were in London overnight these days...
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