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Drunk recently as part of my search for a new 'favourite' 80s VP . Unfortunately partly corked, so difficult to make any real valid judgement. Compared to the 77 Grahams tried previously extremely favourably, this was surprising dry (not the sweet stickier taste I expected) with a very closed intens...

TCP booking confirmed, in the Board Room since there is 6 of us including Ray's guest; confirmed they will supply glasses etc. They also asked me if I wanted to pre-order rib-eye steaks for everyone as has been done previously - while that sounds wonderful to me, I didn't know if people would want t...

To DRT/JacobH, A scanned version of "Oporto Old and New" is available free online from from the internet archive here , either viewable online in browser or downloadable as 20M pdf, if that might meet either of your needs (I realise it may not if higher-quality scans of the illustrations a...

Just thought I'd share this oddity, seen on ebay, here ... Anyone actually tried any of this stuff? Almost didnt post this in the 'Port Conversations' forum, since despite the label a bit of searching implies it might be australian-made, not from oporto... interesting though (and wow, what an awful ...

As part of my search, I tried some Grahams 83 at the weekend; I had high hopes for this as viable candidate port, since while I prefer the Warre 77 to Graham 77, the G77 is also extremely good imo, with a much sweeter sticky style and lovely flavour. Sadly, the bottle of Graham 83 I opened was partl...

Very interesting read Jacob, thanks for posting it; coincidentally enough I had been discussing the same issue with my wife on Saturday, arguing back forth over the amount of difference different glasses could make to the actual taste (rather than the smell), and the difficulty of doing a suitable d...

Looks like 23rd would be the best for all, so suggest we fix on that date. Overall preference sounds like it would be to go blind so will amend for that, but suggest we take jdaw up on his suggestion of messaging him with our intended bottle prior to the event to check for duplicates. Should we expa...

PhilW: if you have an upper price limit, please do specify it. The rules might then require that each port be available in the UK cheaper than PhilW’s stated maximum. Price: I'm happy for there to be no limit price-wise, since (i) specifying 80's restricts this fairly well, (ii) other people will h...

given people's replies I've added the Thursdays as an option too.

Phil.

Jacob, thanks for the info. From reading through old threads I'd assumed TCP as from recent tastings, plus I checked their menu and the steak looked enticing, assuming we also eat?! Good to know about the double pre-decant (makes sense) and that they supply glasses for us for informal. Have posted f...

Hi, As a newcomer, I've posted a thread here in the port conversations forum, discussing my search for a new 'default favourite' house VP to replace my current staple, Warres77, as supplies reduce. After some discussion, I've been encourage to post here to try and sort an informal tasting along thes...

PhilW: there seems to be some enthusiasm for the try-and-see idea. Please start a thread in Organising Tastings and Get-togethers , suggesting which dates can work for you. Please give a useful title to the thread, perhaps ‟PhilW’s New House Port”. Others will say which of those dates they can mak...

would be a nice plan but a little too self-centred for me I think! For very big structured tastings we have two well-established themes: the vertical, and the horizontal. For small get-togethers we like to have new amusing themes: the real purpose is to be sociable with interesting port. It won’t b...

I think we have a theme for an informal London tasting. Bring a Blind Candidate House VP for PhilW . hehe, would be a nice plan but a little too self-centred for me I think! Of course it could be done as a "best of the 80's VP" instead, even if my personal goal would still be the same; si...

If you do expand this to 28, or a place becomes available, I'd love to join you for this event.

Phil.

Aha! JacobH, you get the prize - the chart I was referring to was the one on 'theportman' site, which I notice was last updated around 2000/2001. Have to say this chart was *very* helpful to me around that time in understanding the relative quality of different years (which were better across all sh...

Hi Jacob, Ronnie, thanks for the replies, some interesting suggestions. I agree about the age, that 94 is still a little new; I've been drinking the 77 happily for ~10 year, so really my target would be <90, on the basis that the 77 was superb 10 years ago when the equivalent age was <80, assuming I...

Years ago when I really got into port, one of the things I found a great help in selecting things to try was a chart that somebody had created and put up on a webpage; The table showed a list of all port producers, which years they declared from ~45 to ~90(ish) and gave a score (either a WS score, o...

Hi, My first 'real' post - be gentle with me ;) I have a current port goal which is to find a replacement for my beloved Warre77, so I thought I'd post about my plans and experience so far in case it's of interest and for any suggestions/comments/advice which would be welcome. Warre77 has been my st...

Having recently discovered this forum while searching for UK vintage port tasting opportunities, I thought I should say hi and introduce myself, instead of just lurking :D I've enjoyed ports for a long time, and would say my current favourites would be Fonseca 70, and Warres 77; the latter being a b...

This post was originally made by jdaw1, but the poster was subsequently changed to PhilW to allow him to edit. Summarise a vintage, concisely. It may be a vintage on which a previous poster has commented, or a different vintage. Comments should be limited to max 80 chars, preferably less. 1815 - mo...