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by jdaw1
11:04 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Corrections and Comments

This thread contains the text of the chapter on Port in George Saintsbury’s book Notes on a Cellar-Book , as typed by jdaw1. There will doubtless be errors in the typing, and readers may well have other comments. Please post corrections and comments in the thread Notes on a Cellar-Book: Corrections...
by jdaw1
11:03 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
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Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port List, continued

For Port red Port, as one of the earliest celebrants after the Methuen treaty no less justly than emphatically calls it, White Port being a mere albino is incomparable when good. It is not a wine-of-all-work like Sherry Mr. Pendennis was right when he declined to drink it with his dinner. [ William ...
by jdaw1
11:03 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port List, continued

(Notes on Port List.) It should be observed that the relative frequency with which the names of shippers occur does not invariably involve a higher estimate on my own part, owning to the fact noticed in the chapter on the subject, of the partiality of some wine merchants for some shippers. This is ...
by jdaw1
11:02 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
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Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port List

I subjoin a list of the ports in my cellar at different or the same times. SHIPPERS AND YEARS Cockburn Dow Croft Sandeman 1851 1870 1875 1863 --81 --78 --85 --67 --84 --87 --87 --70 --90 --90 --94 --72 --96 --96 1900 --73 1900 --99 --04 --78 1904 --81 --87 Martinez Warre Graham --90 1880 1878 1881 -...
by jdaw1
11:01 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port, continued

So no more, save a postscript, of ‘the Englishman’s wine’ ; though I should like to talk of a curious Dow, as deep in colour as a wine bottled at thirty months, but otherwise completely ‘tawny’ in character ; of the ’04’s and their wonderfully rapid development (some of which a friend gave me at Bel...
by jdaw1
11:01 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port, continued

On another point of interest, the possession of so large a number of different vintages and shipments enables one to give a pretty well-based opinion ; and that is the extreme uncertainty of the keeping qualities even of a fortified wine like port. I have already hinted, and may now state more preci...
by jdaw1
11:00 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port, continued

One of the results of this extensive and continuous ‘sampling’ was the conclusion that the exclusive devotion of some wine-merchants to particular shippers is rather a mistake, and that the superior position accorded in the market to some of these shippers Cockburn and Sandeman especially—is not un...
by jdaw1
11:00 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port, continued

Between 1895 and 1915 I collected in this way small lots of most of the best back-vintages from ’70 onward, with a few older still : and laid down a dozen or two of several sorts of the best that followed from ’96 to ’08 (I had bought but not cellared ’11 before I gave up housekeeping). At one time ...
by jdaw1
10:59 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port, continued

I found out, at any rate, or chose to find out, that it did me none, or si peu que rien , and regretted my precipitancy in getting rid of the ’78 and ’81. But in ten years I had three house-moves and no good cellar ; so that I simply used up what wines I had got and supplied deficiencies for immedia...
by jdaw1
10:59 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port, continued

However, other people had to be provided for, and I did not myself practise total abstinence. I seem, from menus preserved, though the book was in suspense, to have trusted chiefly to three kinds, no one of which perhaps would have been highly esteemed by a person who went by common opinion, but whi...
by jdaw1
10:58 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port, continued

For some years, however, after the book was started I did not drink much port, being in the heat of my devotion to Claret or Burgundy after dinner. I cannot find that I ever possessed any ’54, which, though not a large or very famous vintage, some not bad judges ranked with ’51 itself, but I have re...
by jdaw1
10:57 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Port

CHAPTER III PORT That port should follow sherry is, or ought to be, to any decent Englishman, a thing requiring no argument. My cellar, if not exactly my cellar-book (which, as has been said, did not begin till some years later), was founded in this eminent respect on a small supply of 1851 (I think...
by jdaw1
10:56 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book: This Text

Following the precedent set in the typing of Vintagewise , throughout the text, grey square parentheses [] indicate a comment by the typist. Links are, of course, added by the typist. Footnotes, shown in the original at the foot of the page, are instead are indicated with a † , and, in small type , ...
by jdaw1
10:55 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book: Corrections and Comments
Replies: 2
Views: 2095

Notes on a Cellar-Book: Corrections and Comments

This thread contains the text of the chapter on Port in George Saintsbury’s book Notes on a Cellar-Book , as typed by jdaw1. There will doubtless be errors in the typing, and readers may well have other comments. Please post corrections and comments in the thread Notes on a Cellar-Book: Corrections...
by jdaw1
10:54 Sun 28 Sep 2008
Forum: Reference
Topic: Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury
Replies: 15
Views: 23737

Notes on a Cellar-Book, by Professor George Saintsbury

There follows the text of chapter III of Notes on a Cellar-Book , by George Saintsbury . The book has been out of copyright for almost five years: Notes on a Cellar-Book was published in London in 1920, having been written by a British author, this text being posted by a British citizen whilst physi...
by jdaw1
16:19 Sat 27 Sep 2008
Forum: Meaningless Drivel
Topic: How to celebrate 20 years of employment....
Replies: 4
Views: 2104

Re: How to celebrate 20 years of employment....

Sounds splendid. Only two things wrong:
1. The absence of me;
2. The absence of tasting notes.
One of these can be remedied.
by jdaw1
15:19 Sat 27 Sep 2008
Forum: Organising Tastings and Get-togethers
Topic: Ferreira October 17 Vertical/New York City
Replies: 28
Views: 23533

Re: Ferreira October 17 Vertical/New York City

Three is quorate. Ferreira, Friday 17th October 2008, chez moi.

Anybody else?
by jdaw1
02:44 Sat 27 Sep 2008
Forum: Organising Tastings and Get-togethers
Topic: Ferreira October 17 Vertical/New York City
Replies: 28
Views: 23533

Re: Ferreira November Vertical/New York City

Tomorrow I’m off to Portugal, so won’t be able to participate actively in the discussion. But I am in town that Friday; my wife is not; so my apartment could be the venue.
by jdaw1
23:21 Fri 26 Sep 2008
Forum: Port Tasting Notes
Topic: 1985 Fonseca
Replies: 5
Views: 3799

Re: 1985 Fonseca vintage port

Anybody could have wrote:Good. Huge. Black. Still closed. Needs another decade, when it will be great.
If I didn’t know better I’d think that somebody had just opened a Fonseca 1985.
by jdaw1
07:39 Fri 26 Sep 2008
Forum: Meaningless Drivel
Topic: How to celebrate 20 years of employment....
Replies: 4
Views: 2104

Re: How to celebrate 20 years of employment....

Enjoy. Steak and kidney is a joy inaccessible this side of the water.
by jdaw1
03:37 Thu 25 Sep 2008
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Port for sale by retailer
Replies: 1539
Views: 890364

Re: Port for sale by retailer

Benchmark Wine wrote:Barros Vintage Port 1947 ~ 1 @ $419 MB*****
C. DaSilva House Reserve 1944 ~ 1 @ $548
Croft 1963 ~ 1 @ $180 WS91
Dow Quinta do Bomfim 1978 ~ 1 @ $82
Ferreira Quinta do Seixo 1983 ~ 1 @ $150 WS91
Sandeman 1968 ~ 1 @ $171
Warre Grand Reserve Tawny 1968 ~ 2 @ $41
by jdaw1
02:33 Thu 25 Sep 2008
Forum: Site Stuff
Topic: Fair Usage of TPF
Replies: 12
Views: 7623

Re: Fair Usage of TPF

I hereby recind my previous statement to the house I don’t think that it is possible to re s cind a statement to the House. One can make a new statement, apologising for previous errors (whether poor public policy, financial indiscretion or a more salubrious ‘misjudgement’), but I don’t think that ...
by jdaw1
23:28 Wed 24 Sep 2008
Forum: Organising Tastings and Get-togethers
Topic: Wednesday October 8, 2008
Replies: 217
Views: 90918

Re: Wednesday October 8, 2008

Placemats updated to include the two versions of 2007.
by jdaw1
03:59 Wed 24 Sep 2008
Forum: Organising Tastings and Get-togethers
Topic: Ferreira October 17 Vertical/New York City
Replies: 28
Views: 23533

Re: Ferreira November Vertical/New York City

Or move it to that Friday 17th October, on which date my wife and child are away so my modest abode becomes a possible venue.
by jdaw1
23:22 Tue 23 Sep 2008
Forum: Site Stuff
Topic: Speed of site response
Replies: 4
Views: 5072

Re: Speed of site response

I purged the cache — no don’t ask — and, given the improvement, will henceforth do so more often.