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Here is a link to the current version of the International Standard for Labelling Wines . The Foreword says this... The present standard is a recommendation from the OIV to the Member States. Its aim is to ease international exchange and to ensure fair information to consumers. It is inspired by the...

Yeah, good point. I still might, though, just for fun. Maybe next time I'm in Peso da Régua with time to waste I'll stop by. There is a nice little coffee shop just outside where you can wait for a few hours until they come out to tell that they can't give you the answer because it is commercially ...

MigSU wrote: ↑18:24 Tue 30 Nov 2021 Should I ring up the IVDP (or better yet, go there in person) and ask?

That would be interesting, but good luck getting a straight answer!

Where is the law that Glenn is so sure about? Perhaps you might believe that there is enough smoke coming from this gun to allow you to change your opinion... I agree that as far as the IVDP is concerned, SQVP is VP. I also stand by my original assertion that the IVDP doesn't define or regulate the...

Glenn E. wrote: ↑17:25 Tue 30 Nov 2021I have found and linked the pertinent regulation before, in threads in which you were a participant, so I don't feel the need to look it up for you again. It's in Portuguese anyway.

Is this the post you are referring to, Glenn?

Single Quinta Vintage Port These Vintages are unique in that they are not only the product of a single harvest but also of a single quinta, or wine estate, which makes them truly exceptional. We're going round in circles here - that is neither a regulation nor unambiguous. - Where is the law that G...

In the absence of finding legislation and regulations setting out the detailed rules I think this statement on the Regulator's website gives us a clear indication of what SQVP is intended to be... Except that no one can find the text of this alleged exception, and we can find the text that says it i...

Thousands of IVDP regulations, announcements, etc can be accessed here by someone with sufficient knowledge of Portuguese to be able to find them.

Except that no one can find the text of this alleged exception, and we can find the text that says it isn't allowed. Where does it say it's not allowed? The IVDP website... Single Quinta Vintage Port These Vintages are unique in that they are not only the product of a single harvest but also of a s...

My understanding for Scion is that they were pretty sure what it was, but not entirely positive, and that they basically had very little proof (if any at all). But for the Millennium Port, my understanding is that Cristiano knew exactly what it was (an 1880, as I recall), and had sufficient proof, ...

On the matter of colheitas I was told some years ago that it is allowable to add a percentage of new wine (IIRC 10%) and I gained the impression that this is fully above board and not covert practice. There is, presumably, a document that lays down what is, and isn't permissible, irrespective of wh...

uncle tom wrote: ↑09:36 Sun 28 Nov 2021There is, presumably, a document that lays down what is, and isn't permissible, irrespective of what happens in practice; but I don't know where it is..

This is a very nice story and very generous of your uncle to gift you such wonderful cases of Port, but I agree with Glenn that your expectations are too high. Asking for current retail price for a private sale is somewhat ambitious. You might fare better offering them at auction.

Derek is making my point for me. For the Governor's daughter, the Pirate Code is a code, because she is taking the ... rule-bound-law-abiding-English-Governor's-daughter approach. Captain Barbosa, who actually lives the pirate life, interprets the code differently. And, of course, it only applies t...

Absolutely. I'm not arguing that this is how things are actually done, just that this is how the law says they're to be done. I've had similar discussions with Andy in the past regarding "topping off" or "refreshing" of old Colheitas. He says he's been told that there are except...

While it is always with trepidation that I venture into what I think are other people's mutual non-comprehensions, I do think that everyone in this discussion has a point. Portuguese laws on this stuff are a legal code. The code exists and is immutable (until changed). But, there is a certain latit...

I think we could ponder this entomological question for quite some time but the absolutely plain fact is that in the Douro region, and most if not all of modern day Portugal, a "Quinta" is a farm. In the Douro most of them farm grapes and make Port or wine. SQVP comes from one property (wi...

I think you're misreading it. "Or wine estate" seems to me to be explaining what a "Quinta" is. I read it as "not only the product of a single harvest but also of a single quinta, i.e., a wine estate". Exactly right. That sentence is setting out the two conditions that...

MigSU wrote: ↑01:55 Sun 21 Nov 2021

amyst wrote: ↑00:22 Sun 21 Nov 2021 I everything goes well with my visa application - i can try the coffee you mentioned in three weeks only :}

Where are you from, amyst?

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The quinta names are brand names and need to be seen as brand names more than geographic constraints. Not historically, and not according to current Portuguese law. In layman's terms if it says "Quinta" on the label, the wine must come from the quinta in question. If you are arguing that ...

Graham's Malvedos was a second label Port for decades. It didn't become a single-quinta Port until, IIRC, 1998 or 1999. Malvedos has been regularly bottled as an SQVP since 1950, but is not often seen prior to '61 Malvedos was originally used as a brand name by Graham with much of the wine coming f...

The Symington's now have a policy of re-corking almost everything that they release late from their cellars. If your cases were released from their cellars in the past five years or so they were more than likely re-corked.

Porto Nova (forgive my Portuguese if I get that wrong!) "Porto" is a masculine noun in Portuguese, so "new Port" would be "Porto Novo". Young Port would be Porto Jovem. Bloody hell, I'm not needed here :shock: My Portuguese isn't that good! I'm pretty sure that Will's ...

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