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by uncle tom
08:50 Sun 20 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Brand Styles
Replies: 4
Views: 173

Re: Brand Styles

Are there any good reference posts that discuss the stylistic differences between brands under the same owners? Obviously, single quintas will have their unique stylings, but what are the general brand differences between Symington's four big names (and its smaller names, like Smith Woodhouse or Go...
by uncle tom
14:01 Mon 14 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

Has anyone bought what was intended to be a cellar defender then gotten them home, opened one and then went, “Shoot, this is way better than I thought and too young to drink right now.”? 12 years ago I picked up a half case of Quarles Harris '77 very cheaply, with casual quaffing in mind - I soon r...
by uncle tom
16:50 Sat 12 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

I have never seen or heard of a modern vintage unfiltered Graham’s LBV Neither have I, but I do think they ought to bottle one. Maybe not bottle matured like the Warre, but supplied with a proper driven cork. be quite disappointed if I accidentally got the unfiltered version! I only found out about...
by uncle tom
07:07 Sat 12 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

Really? Graham LBV is a clear mass-market opponent to Taylor and Warre Bottle Matured LBV addressing a completely different market, predominantly against "Portuguese" brands. Dow LBV is very low volume and sold through high-end retailers and doesn't really compete with the other two. Seems quite st...
by uncle tom
23:11 Thu 10 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

I believe that they Symingtons consider Dow, Graham, and Warre to all be co-equals, perhaps also including Cockburn. It's the market that used to focus more on Dow but is now focusing more on Graham. In casual conversation, it is not hard to detect that some scions of the Symington clan have a spec...
by uncle tom
11:15 Thu 10 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

I'm even getting to the point that I feel like quality unfiltered LBV needs 20 years of age. I agree. A few LBVs are made with rubbish juice that really shouldn't pass the IVDP, and some are over-filtered/fined. From the producers that take the style seriously, most should be drunk between 20 and 4...
by uncle tom
02:49 Thu 10 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

but next year the 2000 vintage becomes "ready for drinking" so can't really been regarded as cellar defenders I'm running three years behind you. I will start 'exploratory' trials of the '97 vintage next year, with stashes of Dow and Niepoort lined up ready for sampling. At the same time the '91 vi...
by uncle tom
12:27 Mon 07 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Vintage 2020
Replies: 8
Views: 458

Re: Vintage 2020

The nearest weather data available online that I can find comes from Vila Real, which is always a few degrees cooler than the Douro valley as it's quite high up, but it nevertheless gives an indication of what's going on - usually! But there's no suggestion of above average temperatures in the secon...
by uncle tom
21:34 Sun 06 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Split location storage challenges
Replies: 4
Views: 174

Re: Split location storage challenges

I use CellarTracker to track what location they are at. Whilst I find CellarTracker a very useful resource when I want to find out, in ball park terms, what most people think of a widely marketed wine; I've never uploaded my stock inventory to it, or played with its less obvious tools. Aside from r...
by uncle tom
15:04 Sun 06 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Split location storage challenges
Replies: 4
Views: 174

Split location storage challenges

I am lucky enough to have a proper cellar underneath my house, so unlike many people here, do not have the imperative to split cases between a home wine fridge and a remote storage facility. However for a few years now I've been doing this for unfortified wines, partly to maintain a wider range at h...
by uncle tom
19:42 Fri 04 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

I wonder how many of those other producers were making “Vintage Character” Ports? I'm not at all sure when the term 'Vintage Character' was first used. I am preserving a couple of good examples in the interests of posterity, since 99.9+% of it has now been drunk. That said, I'm not sure I've ever s...
by uncle tom
17:40 Fri 04 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

I think I am right in saying that Taylor’s LBV was invented As far as I can make out, the only thing Taylor invented was the idea of using a T-stopper on a premium quality ruby port. Everything else had been done before. However the mass marketing of the product did cause some upset at the time. Ot...
by uncle tom
04:27 Fri 04 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

cloying
Each to his own, but my interpretation of the word 'cloying' is an excess of sugar that has no integration in the wine. It is very much a characteristic of young tawnies rather than aged ones, and another reason why I prefer to drink them matured.
by uncle tom
14:32 Thu 03 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

The producers have to work within the constraints presented to them. They can't make a mellow wine, as that is only achieved through bottle aging, and they also know that there is no consumer tradition of laying down tawnies to mature. As a consequence, it doesn't do their sales much good if they sh...
by uncle tom
12:05 Thu 03 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

Do you find much changes in those 10 year old tawnies when they’ve spend a decade in bottle? Standard tawnies don't go south after a decade in bottle, but they only mellow to a moderate degree. Rich reserve tawnies, like the Quevedo, are very raw when first bottled, yet bottle age quite quickly, be...
by uncle tom
07:01 Thu 03 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

do you ever drink any Port that hasn't spent some serious time aging in a bottle?!
Very rarely these days. Around 98% of my port consumption is aged wine with an overall average of somewhere between 25 and 30 years bottle age.
by uncle tom
17:01 Wed 02 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Cellar Defenders
Replies: 75
Views: 2227

Re: Cellar Defenders

As I'm drinking far more at home this year, and far less socially, my normal allocations for home drinking are being stretched. I have a spreadsheet to ration my allocations of VP and LBV, and as infill, am drinking some ten yr old half bottles of Quevedo reserve tawny, which is now very nicely smoo...
by uncle tom
13:38 Wed 02 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Vintage 2020
Replies: 8
Views: 458

Re: Vintage 2020

in the well perceived 2019 harvest
I've been told that weather fluctuations 'confused' the vines last year, and that things went a bit haywire in the final days before harvest.

- Maybe some producers were more fortunate than others..
by uncle tom
12:44 Wed 02 Sep 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Wine Rack sizes
Replies: 28
Views: 4886

Re: Wine Rack sizes

by a built-in-rack in a kitchen holding a dozen bottles or so The dimensions of standard kitchen carcassing is really awkward and inefficient when it comes to incorporating wine racking. Unless you indulge extra deep worktops and knock the back board out of the unit, it isn't quite deep enough for ...
by uncle tom
16:30 Mon 31 Aug 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: What was your first vintage?
Replies: 16
Views: 1242

Re: What was your first vintage?

Xmas 1977 (I think)

Invited to a drinks party, a bottle of 1917 port had been decanted (I don't know which shipper)
by uncle tom
16:22 Mon 31 Aug 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Wine Rack sizes
Replies: 28
Views: 4886

Re: Wine Rack sizes

As an aside to this thread, when did 'traditional' wood and steel racks first appear? My parents and grandparents generation never used them, my father always kept wine in the cases it arrived in, and as far as I can make out, the previous generation had bottles delivered as required by a local wine...
by uncle tom
10:40 Mon 31 Aug 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Vintage 2020
Replies: 8
Views: 458

Vintage 2020

Well, here comes another vintage - what are the portents? The only reportage I've had from the front line indicated an expectation of an early harvest - more detail would be welcome. The weather so far this year looks reasonably benign - adequate winter rain, but very little since mid May, barring a...
by uncle tom
17:56 Sat 29 Aug 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Looking for info on a bottle of Borges
Replies: 5
Views: 319

Re: Looking for info on a bottle of Borges

I opened a Borges tawny from the mid eighties earlier this month, and found it beautifully mellow and smooth. So whilst I agree with Andy that these bottles don't command a premium price, they can drink very well indeed. If you decide to drink it, decant it first otherwise it's likely to be a bit ha...
by uncle tom
15:58 Tue 25 Aug 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: How to weigh bottles?
Replies: 0
Views: 294

How to weigh bottles?

This question was put to me recently, and I realised that as many people have never had to weigh anything accurately before, a little guidance might be helpful. 1) Buy a laboratory balance You can pay a fortune for these, but can also make do with an inexpensive machine. The model I use is the PCE-B...
by uncle tom
15:09 Tue 25 Aug 2020
Forum: Port Conversations
Topic: Foot treading and the plague
Replies: 12
Views: 676

Re: Foot treading and the plague

Foot treading will resume, for the simple reason that it's good for tourism and general publicity.

The robotic treading machines will probably take over the bulk of the work in volume terms, but I can't see many producers ripping out all their lagars.